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New Johor Track Photo

Posted by: Loren Coleman on November 17th, 2006

Malaysia Bigfoot

There is a new track photo, on November 17, 2006, to consider and a word of caution about them to share from Sean Ang.

The New Straits Times is publishing details that a "Bigfoot researcher" named Mansur Poh presented them with several "unpublished photographs" of "footprints of the creature" found in the "deep jungles of Ulu Sedili in Kota Tinggi." Mansue reported they were taken by "nature lovers" early in 2006. One is shown above.

Mansur Poh is also known as a Lesser Adjutants biological researcher, studying birds’ habitat in the coastal areas stretching from Muar to Batu Pahat.

"The pictures of the footprints were taken in Ulu Sedili in Kota Tinggi and Kahang in Kluang this year," Mansur Poh further told the New Straits Times.

As demonstrated in the past, when large trade conferences are in Malaysian locations, Bigfoot evidence or activity is often presented. Mansur Poh has created and is showing a Bigfoot exhibition at the Dewan Che Luan Khor in Kluang, during the 5th Kluang Commerce and Industry Fair which ends on November 19, 2006.

Mansur’s preliminary report "The Identity and Distribution of Bigfoot in Johor" was been submitted to Menteri Besar Datuk Abdul Ghani Othman in October 2006.

The New Straits Times also reported:

The research project is supervised by Associate Professor Dr Azhar Kassim who is with Universiti Putra Malaysia’s Department of Animal Science.

In his report, Mansur said he had interviewed 10 people from Segamat, Mersing, Kota Tinggi and Kluang who claimed they had seen Bigfoot or its footprints in the jungle. One of those interviewed claimed that he saw four huge footprints, measuring 46cm by 28cm, last June. The footprints, which he said were found at the Ulu Sedili Forest Reserve, were about two metres apart while the depth of each footprint was nearly 8cm.

Dr Azhar, meanwhile, said he is guiding Mansur in his research to ensure that it is being carried out in a scientific manner.

The local media highlighted the possible existence of Bigfoot early this year following the discovery of footprints in Kota Tinggi last December.

Meanwhile, in an Exclusive to Cryptomundo, Sean Ang calls for caution in looking at this new material:

If you look at the NST today, there is a new photo of Bigfoot print provided by Mansur Poh. However, please be cautious for the following reasons:

a. The original owner and negative of the photo is still unknown, although it was said to be from a "nature lover". This is based on my conversation with Sitam from NST.

b. Mansur Poh made a blunder by including the previous 4 hoax photos in the exhibition ….This is based on conversation with Vincent Chow who got feedback from some reporters. It appears that Mansur Poh is not aware of the hoax photos.

Please take note. There appears to be renewal of interest of Bigfoot in Johor by the media. But we should be extra careful this time..Sean Ang.

Johor Hominid Photo

Despite the fakery of the recent past (such as the “eyes only” one above), the hopes I (Loren Coleman) have are that we can get to the bottom of what’s going on in Malaysia, and with new eyes (no pun intended), look at the old (1970s-2005) cases, as well as good new evidence. Everything should be cautiously examined, of course. But let’s not ignore that before the “mystery photos,” the area had a long history of Orang Dalam accounts that were treated seriously by Bernard Heuvelmans, Ivan T. Sanderson, Harold Stephens, Mark A. Hall, Patrick Huyghe, Karl Shuker and me. The pre-hoax reports remain worthy of our attention. Something undiscovered, very large and bipedal appears to still be in the rainforests of Johor. In this case, to be overly skeptical and shy about anything from Malaysia is to be overly blind.

About Loren Coleman
Loren Coleman is one of the world’s leading cryptozoologists, some say “the” leading. Certainly, he is acknowledged as the current living American researcher and writer who has most popularized cryptozoology in the late 20th and early 21st centuries. Starting his fieldwork and investigations in 1960, after traveling and trekking extensively in pursuit of cryptozoological mysteries, Coleman began writing to share his experiences in 1969. An honorary member of Ivan T. Sanderson’s Society for the Investigation of the Unexplained in the 1970s, Coleman has been bestowed with similar honorary memberships of the North Idaho College Cryptozoology Club in 1983, and in subsequent years, that of the British Columbia Scientific Cryptozoology Club, CryptoSafari International, and other international organizations. He was also a Life Member and Benefactor of the International Society of Cryptozoology (now-defunct). Loren Coleman’s daily blog, as a member of the Cryptomundo Team, served as an ongoing avenue of communication for the ever-growing body of cryptozoo news from 2005 through 2013.


18 Responses to “New Johor Track Photo”

  1. kittenz responds:

    Oh please. Not more Johor.

  2. oldbutnotstupid responds:

    I agree with Kittenz we have had more then enough of these people and their make-believe big foot.

  3. rifleman responds:

    It looks like it was made with a plywood cutout.

  4. DWA responds:

    OK, Loren, we’re patient here.

    (Read: Job.)

    I’ve really gotten into believe-it-when-I see-it mode, when it comes to this area. (And “it” can’t be just tracks.)

  5. mystery_man responds:

    I also have the first reaction of a groan when I hear about the Johor homonid. But Loren is right when he says there is a history of eyewitness accounts before the whole fiasco we had to endure. These con men jumped on the stories that were already out there and made it into a farce, which as a result has made most want to look the other way. But the fact is that there have been reports coming from there for a long time and I do not feel just yet that they must all be fraudulent just because of what happened with some dishonest individuals. I will keep an open mind. I do not want to let the actions of these hoaxters dissuade me from what could still be a potentially viable area of homonid activity.

  6. EastexQueenB responds:

    Quote Rifleman: It looks like it was made with a plywood cutout.

    Thank you. I’m glad to see I’m not the only one who thinks the edges are too straight and clean, the inside of the print too level. Totally fake, IMO.

    EQB

  7. DWA responds:

    Personally, when one compares this print to what will one day become famous as the “Grauman Track” in the Bigfoot in LA thread, the fakery employed here is all too obvious.

    Once again, America leads. The rest of the world lamely attempts to follow.

    Not too surprising. I think the Big Guy has had it with the lassitude and cowardice of the Science Establishment, and is “lowering the rim,” as they say in basketball.

  8. DARHOP responds:

    I must agree with the MysteryMan. Too many witnesses in the area way before the JOHOR junk, for something not to be roaming in the Malaysian Jungles.

    And why not Malaysia? I would think it to be a perfect fit for Bigfoot. Though I am no expert. Heck, I’m not even a novice.

    But don’t you think the Malaysian Jungles would be prime Bigfoot real estate? If no, why not?

  9. richcap responds:

    Mansur Poh –
    I think a clever pen name for the Johor researcher, “Alotta Pooh”…

    rolls eyes.

  10. Rillo777 responds:

    I agree with Loren. We must be careful to sort out fact from fiction. The danger is that we may became as jaded about certain locales as science generally is about cryptozoology. One or a dozen fakes does not mean there is no creature at all.

  11. Maer responds:

    Sad but true, the word “Johor” is now going to cause people to trash before they study. It’s also true that we need to look through the tripe to find the good stuff, sadly, this picture ain’t it. No thought to weight distribution and pressure, this is just… ick. What’s worse is that there are people who will believe it.
    *heavy sigh*

  12. dws responds:

    Having both an Uncle and Aunt who works and knows the head-man of the Malaysian tourism board…They have divulge to me that this Johor Bigfoot thing was a hoax made up to promote Malaysia’s new Eco tourism angle. I’m sure there is some proof to this Johor Sasquatch, but it’s being brutally exploited by SE Asians who are just extreme capitalists. (Being from that part of the world, I can tell you all that’s all that goes on down there…MONEY MONEY MONEY) I urge you all to ignore all of the JOHOR Sasquatch news.

    Mucho Gracias

  13. mememe responds:

    Well I was wondering if these could be the prints of the Bush Lerker or it proper name the Lirpa Loof? I am not sure what they are but I just wonder if the tracks match.

  14. lastensugle responds:

    I’m sure there’s a possibility something bigfoot-like could live in the Malaysian jungle, but I really want to see something more concrete than what have been presented this far.

  15. Carlfoot responds:

    The JOHOR debacle has been one of the biggest disappointments in Bigfoot history (at least to me). When I first heard all the JOHOR talk, I was very encouraged, as it looked promising and the information sounded credible. But, now I think of Tom Biscadi when I hear JOHOR talk. In other words: Hoax action.

  16. megalodon responds:

    Loren is absolutely correct regarding the history of Orang Dalam accounts. Both pre-hoax and post-hoax reports should be given the attention they deserve based on the quality of the evidence presented. Skepticism is fine, but let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

  17. DARHOP responds:

    Malaysia is 90% jungle. Seen that on a show the other night. Can’t remember what show, Explorer channel I think. BigFoot could survive there no problemo.

  18. civetcatman responds:

    Bigfoot in Johor? Possibly. Competency? Not likely.



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