Sasquatch Face Print Exclusive!

Posted by: Loren Coleman on June 16th, 2011

The folks at Sanger Paranormal are not paying attention. They put out a news release, we discussed it here earlier, and now this morning AOL News has broken the story in the mass media. But despite Sanger’s desire to keep the imagery secret until their news conference of the 23rd, in a move that is strangely similar to the leaks of the “Georgia Bigfoot” under ice hoax of 2008, Sanger has leaked the face print of the Sasquatch early. It was found on their site, and then quickly removed. But here’s what they posted, which was saved by a Cryptomundo reader, Rick Sheen and forwarded to Cryptomundo:

The image made into a thumbnail photo actually shows the open-mouthed creature’s head, turned to the left from the viewer’s point of view, a bit better:

Meanwhile, thanks to my tip, Lee Spiegel at AOL News interviewed and investigated this unfolding series of events further, and has just released the following article: “Bigfoot Investigators Hope DNA Test Will Confirm Existence Of Two Man-Beasts.” Read the entire AOL account at the link noted, but here’s the section involving how I feel about this developing story:

“One of the cautions I have about finding a nose print or anything on the side of a car is that it could be a homeless person, resulting in people letting their imaginations go wild,” suggested Loren Coleman, owner of the International Cryptozoology Museum in Portland, Maine.

“Of course, if you take a DNA sample and it comes back near-human or primate, then it would match both Bigfoot and a homeless person,” Coleman told AOL.

But what about the addition of the large footprint near the truck where the window impressions were made?

“A 12-inch footprint is not too exciting, because it could be a human or bears imprinting on top of each other,” Coleman speculated.

“In this case, it might not have been a homeless person, but in wilderness areas, there are other hikers and somebody would’ve naturally put their nose up to the window to look inside the car.”

Gonzalez is holding a news conference on June 23 at the Piccadilly Inn in Fresno, Calif.

“I’ll be presenting video of both windows, pictures and live testimony from the people who shared the event with me. We will also have a forensic expert who took DNA samples,” he said.

Coleman, a long-time investigator of Bigfoot and other legendary creatures that come under the category of cryptozoology, is cautious about the outcome of this kind of news.

“You know, I’d be a fool if I didn’t say that I’m hoping there’s definitive evidence of Bigfoot found. I hope somebody will turn over any evidence to some scientists who could then hold a news conference at a university.

“Then people won’t doubt what’s going on.”

[Interview note: I gave answers about the “homeless person” in discussing imprints in general, without reference to knowing the exact circumstances of the location, to the reporter. Then I was told more unpublished details about the site, and noted the hikers scenario. There are wilderness vagrants, but I am not silly enough to have said there were homeless people up in the wilderness areas near Fresno.]

Furthermore, Sanger Paranormal has released a footprint photo to AOL News, with the notes that it was found near the truck, and measured 12 inches long. Frankly, I think the lower imprint looks like a boot print, and I wonder if the one in the middle of the photo is also a human print. These prints are being associated with the face print, but there is no evidence of a direct connection, at all.

AOL News caption: “This footprint was found over Memorial Day weekend, 2011, near Fresno, Calif. by a group of campers who were on a Bigfoot-hunting expedition. The print, measuring approximately 12 inches, was found near a truck where possible DNA evidence was left behind by more than one Bigfoot creature.”

Loren Coleman About Loren Coleman
Loren Coleman is one of the world’s leading cryptozoologists, some say “the” leading living cryptozoologist. Certainly, he is acknowledged as the current living American researcher and writer who has most popularized cryptozoology in the late 20th and early 21st centuries. Starting his fieldwork and investigations in 1960, after traveling and trekking extensively in pursuit of cryptozoological mysteries, Coleman began writing to share his experiences in 1969. An honorary member of Ivan T. Sanderson’s Society for the Investigation of the Unexplained in the 1970s, Coleman has been bestowed with similar honorary memberships of the North Idaho College Cryptozoology Club in 1983, and in subsequent years, that of the British Columbia Scientific Cryptozoology Club, CryptoSafari International, and other international organizations. He was also a Life Member and Benefactor of the International Society of Cryptozoology (now-defunct). Loren Coleman’s daily blog, as a member of the Cryptomundo Team, served as an ongoing avenue of communication for the ever-growing body of cryptozoo news from 2005 through 2013. He returned as an infrequent contributor beginning Halloween week of 2015. Coleman is the founder in 2003, and current director of the International Cryptozoology Museum in Portland, Maine.


57 Responses to “Sasquatch Face Print Exclusive!”

  1. DWA responds:

    dermal_ridges_are_proof:

    “You are so wrong DWA. Evidence always offers proof of ’something’ otherwise it would not be called evidence!”

    Is that a joke?

    Hint: different words.

    (Please God, don’t make me give more clues. Wha…????? OK…..[sigh])

    Dude! Dictionary!

  2. dermal_ridges_are_proof responds:

    Don’t ‘Dude Dictionary’ me!!!

    I think you misunderstand. Let me clarify. One example to illustrate: Dr Jeff Meldrums, 2007 culminating scientific paper ICHNOTAXONOMY OF GIANT HOMINID TRACKS IN NORTH AMERICA. This is a casebook of evidence which I think provides proof (to me and many others!) that an uncatalogued species of bipedal ape is living in the American N.W.

    You don’t have to agree with me, but to me this is a case proven; AS FAR AS IT GOES. Much more bona fide evidence giving further proof as to the ‘specifics’ of species type, behaviour etc are obviously required, so that all the many aspects or facets are covered. (easier said than done, I know)

    But you see I’m making the distinction between strong, bona fide SCIENTIFIC evidence that provides proof of certain aspects of the bigfoot mystery up to a point; which then makes prior supposition redundant. …And submissions of weak, suspect or bogus evidence that count for nothing or very little, and doesn’t provide any proof positive.

    I’d like to ask you what you think of the P.G. footage? Does it mean anything to you? What does it tell you personally?

    Regarding the original theme of this thread (the face print):

    I don’t know how you can enter into this initial stage of debate concerning (so far) a couple of leaked photos, and bring into it such ‘heavy duty’ bias, prejudice, and even a ‘hoax’ conclusion from the comfort of your armchair! Very scientific! If interested academics are following this one as it unfolds, they may harbour private doubts but (unlike you) would refrain from giving any kind of conclusion until all the evidence was on the table for assessment and analysis.

    In the ‘final analysis’ the evidence will speak for itself and will stand the test of time or not!

  3. DWA responds:

    dermal_ridges_are_proof:

    Here’s “proof,” in the only sense that the word means a thing to the crowd at Cryptomundo, or in the world at large for that matter:

    It’s real; everyone knows it; and any lunkheads still in doubt will just be told to look it up, and rejoin the conversation when they are informed. Like robins; pigs; the sun and the moon. Denying them makes you look hospitalizable. That’s proof.

    Period.

    If someone has seen a sasquatch, it is proven, to THAT person, and to that person only. (Only, now, if that person trusts the evidence of their own eyes. Many do not.) Not to me; not to you; not to Loren; not to anyone else here or in the world beyond crypto. But that person’s sighting is EVIDENCE, that can be compiled along with other reports to build a case to the larger society that maybe, just maybe, this thing is real.

    Proof can be relative. Above is one example. Another is when someone you truly trust tells you he’s seen one. If that utterly convinces you, you (and you only, unless others agree with you) have “proof.” I don’t. Nor does anyone other than the ones who totally trust that person.

    For the larger society, the sciences are the arbiter of proof. If they don’t think it’s proven, then to most of us, it isn’t.

    The larger society treats sasquatch sightings as mistakes, hoaxes and hallucinations precisely because, to the society at large, and to science as arbiter of what we as a SOCIETY consider reality, Bigfoot isn’t real. That is, no proof that means anything to the zeitgeist.

    There is a lot of evidence. (The P/G film is, to me, a significant piece).

    But to most of us, it simply doesn’t add up to proof. It does add up to “reason to look.”

  4. Nominay responds:

    DRAP – Since dermal ridges are a specified interest to you on Bigfoot, I wanted to ask you – what is their significance on the tree of humanity? Where do they fall on the evolutionary timeline? Would they preclude Neanderthals and modern humans as Bigfoot since some bozos suspect that this is what they are? How have dermal ridges shaped your opinion of Bigfoot beyond proof of its existence? Thank you.

  5. dermal_ridges_are_proof responds:

    DWA:- We aren’t so far apart in our thinking. Although I don’t like generalising. I just wanted to add that the wider societal view (regarding belief or disbelief) is in the hands of the ‘facilitators’ of bonafide scientific information. And here’s my frustration:-

    Although we have ‘no body’ I feel that Dr Jeff Meldrums culmative works, that build upon the works of other primatologists, are so compelling that I’m surprised more sceptical scientists (potential facilitators of the ‘good news’ to the wider public) haven’t been swayed or won over to the possibility of bigfoots existence

    If more numbers were won over, can you imagine what the collective message from an extended roll call of key scientists might be? Even if pronouncements concerned solely the ‘likelihood’ of existence rather than a declaration of absolute proof? Consequently I feel their would be a large shift in public perception of the bigfoot phenomenon towards belief. The process of gradual transformation of the wider publics ’belief’ would be well under way, at the moment I feel it’s ‘lagging’ in relation to the compelling evidence already in the public domain.

  6. dermal_ridges_are_proof responds:

    Nominay:- Sorry to disappoint you but dermal ridges are not my area of speciality!

    I’m not a scientist nor a qualified academic. I’m just a layman with a passion!

    And I make no bones about it; I’m on an extremely interesting learning curve.

    I chose my posting name because I thought it was a novel idea to ‘proclaim from the rooftops’ as it were an aspect of bigfoot evidence that is most compelling; dermal ridges as unique in form as a fingerprint! Can anyone seriously explain them away or debunk?

    I’ve just learnt that Matt Crowley’s past attempts at debunking dermal ridges by explaining them away as ‘desiccation ridges’ falls short. In a ‘nut shell’ I would say that desiccation ridges are identifiable and proven, and dermal ridges are also identifiable and proven. And when the two meet occasionally on the same plaster cast they are easily differentiated by the trained eye.

    Again, sorry to disappoint you if my answer doesn’t quite meet with you expectations

  7. DWA responds:

    DRAP: not disagreeing with anything you wrote in your last post.

    Neither is Dr. John Bindernagel, who considers the sasquatch essentially a discovery that hasn’t gotten full vetting yet.

    Cheers.




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