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What Did You Think Of Finding Bigfoot: “Swamp Ape”?

Posted by: Loren Coleman on June 5th, 2011

The second episode of Finding Bigfoot aired on Sunday night, June 5, 2011, at 10:00 pm, with a quick rebroadcast at 11:00 pm.

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The episode was entitled “Swamp Ape” and took place in Florida. One part of the episode regarded the find of a handprint by Bill and Carolyn Bridges, outside of Quincy, centered in Gadsden County, Florida (seen in red below).

It looks like the modified “town meeting” approach is enjoyed by the show.  The Finding Bigfoot team visited Gadsden County, as well as the Seminoles of the Everglades (second map below), in the southern part of the state. The citizens shared their history with the local variation of the southern cryptid swamp apes (a/k/a boogers, Napes, Skunk Apes), some of which goes back hundreds of years.

The fact there were seemingly some noises heard on the soundtrack, and alleged thermal images shown midway and late in this episode is no assurance that these were actual pieces of evidence gathered or inserted dramatic re-creations. Several CG images and Bigfoot costumed actors were used in scenes throughout the program. The final thermal image of supposedly Matt shown going towards a static figure that reportedly was seen to run off was not supported by any shown thermal imaging. That part was extremely confusing. Was authentic thermals shown? Or were what was shown part of real thermals? And if so, why wasn’t the footage of the figure moving and running off shown?

The June 5th first screening of “Swamp Ape” is open for discussion now. What did you think?

Matt Moneymaker has shared some comments on this episode. Please click and read here for more.

About Loren Coleman
Loren Coleman is one of the world’s leading cryptozoologists, some say “the” leading. Certainly, he is acknowledged as the current living American researcher and writer who has most popularized cryptozoology in the late 20th and early 21st centuries. Starting his fieldwork and investigations in 1960, after traveling and trekking extensively in pursuit of cryptozoological mysteries, Coleman began writing to share his experiences in 1969. An honorary member of Ivan T. Sanderson’s Society for the Investigation of the Unexplained in the 1970s, Coleman has been bestowed with similar honorary memberships of the North Idaho College Cryptozoology Club in 1983, and in subsequent years, that of the British Columbia Scientific Cryptozoology Club, CryptoSafari International, and other international organizations. He was also a Life Member and Benefactor of the International Society of Cryptozoology (now-defunct). Loren Coleman’s daily blog, as a member of the Cryptomundo Team, served as an ongoing avenue of communication for the ever-growing body of cryptozoo news from 2005 through 2013.


56 Responses to “What Did You Think Of Finding Bigfoot: “Swamp Ape”?”

  1. etheral responds:

    I definitely think this episode was better than the first one. Although there’s a lot to it that’s “padded” for TV, it’s still a fun watch for anyone interested in the Bigfoot subject.

  2. Evo Schandor responds:

    After all the “discussions” of the last week, all I could think during the whole show was “Was that piece of evidence faked/edited?” and “I wonder if all the witnesses involved know how thin-skinned and defensive some of these people can be?”

  3. Hambone responds:

    I thought the family that had the encounters at their house is believable, but what about the image on the camera that ran off? Kinda of leaves you hanging why they didn’t show it.

  4. Kahil responds:

    Just started it…..waited for the DVR to finish recording so I can fast forward through the ads.

    I am not saying that that I plan to take anything I see on the show seriously. After all, its just another reality tv show. Especially since they fake evidence and Moneymaker thinks everything he sees or hears has something to do with Bigfoot. He is an “expert” after all right? **rolls eyes**

    So far… The metal pole? Moneymaker has stated that only something with opposable thumbs could bend that little pole. Not true at all. So far, all of the damage these people have shown can easily be done by a bear or other large animal. In Florida you have bears, panthers, deer, etc. Not to mention there are still a lot of animals that were either released by hurricanes or by people keeping them as pets.

  5. TimmyRyan65 responds:

    Why didn’t they show the object on the “thermal” shot run off if that Bobo guy had it nailed on the video? It was there one second standing in front of Matt Moneymaker, then the close up of Matt saying it ran off, then the thermal shot of just Matt Moneymaker just standing there. Did it just disappear? No movement of it on the screen.

    I thought the show was entertaining like MonsterQuest was. But the “science” the show presents bothers me especially when kids are probably watching this show. The “FACT” they presented on one of the commercial breaks stated Skunk Apes smell because they hide in methane pockets left by alligators. How do they know this when they even haven’t proven this “creature’s” existence yet? Everyone on the show seems to be on the assumption that this thing exists. This flaws the “science” right off the bat.

    Anyway, I will keep watching it to see how it progresses. It’s entertaining listening to the “lingo” they use.

    I can’t see how this show can have multiple seasons unless they do bag a “squatch”! Like MonsterQuest, it will just run out of stuff that’s interesting and different to do, from previous episodes.

    Again getting back to the “thermal” shot, this skeptic would like to know why the object wasn’t shown leaving the scene.

  6. AlyoshaK responds:

    All in all, I think they are doing a pretty good job with this show. The core group seems believable, as did the family in Floirida. Moneymaker, to me is not in the same “ridiculous, almost evil” category as Biscardi, but he sure could use an injection of objectivity. It’s OK to say “I don’t know.”

  7. eyecitga responds:

    Hi folks. I actually was more enthralled with this episode than the first one. I also had my moments of is it “real or fake” as it went along. Had to laugh when Bobo almost knocked his head off. Like that dude a lot. Was disappointed in the end where thermal image wasn’t shown running off. Instead we’re told it ran off. What did it look like? Was in on all fours? Did Moneymaker see it run off and what was the description once it did move? Little things like that can go a long way in winning back folks who were turned off last week. But overall, a very good show. Really liked the witnesses this week, by the way.

  8. flame821 responds:

    wow, where to begin.

    I do understand that this is ‘made for TV’ so, for some reason, their skeptic was not allowed to be skeptical. However the damage to the bird feeder and pole is something I personally have seen dozens of times. Done by black bears, no opposable thumbs required. The ‘bang’ or ‘knock’ as they called it on the North Florida property sounded like garbage cans being jostled, that roar could easily belong to a bear as well. The casting of the foot print was so poor it could have been anything. So no solid proof there.

    Handprint: not sure what to make of this one. I do think that whatever made it slid its fingers along the glass before putting down its palm. I’m a bit surprised that it was so low to the ground (maybe 2 feet from the ground) so I would put that down as an interesting possibility.

    In the beginning of the show it was specifically mentioned about the Swamp Ape’s strong smell and how they are smaller than West Coast BF, however the eye witness descriptions put the Swamp Ape at between 7.5 and 10 feet and not one of them mentioned a smell. As witnesses go, I think Barefoot Billy and the fellow who owns property next to the reservation (Ron?) were the most credible.

    What truly and honestly annoyed me most was that little ‘quiz’ when they went to commercial regarding what causes the skunk ape to stink, options were Methane, Diet, Self Defense. Now, someone please, please tell me when, where and how ‘someone’ discovered that Swamp Apes smell because, and I quote “They live in air pockets of gator dens and their fur absorbs the smell of methane” o_0 They do? Since when? Can we get some verifiable evidence to back that assumption up?

    I don’t mind supporting shows like this if they bring more attention and interest to cryptozoology however I cannot abide with putting out false information while claiming it is real. Everything on that show is spoken as if the ‘true believers’, the ‘team of experts’ truly have documented, verifiable proof instead of suppositions and guess work. That is annoying as the 10yo watching that today will be the researcher in the next decade and they will be working off false premises.

    What I did like and thought was a novel and a genius move was to use those air drones. I can see those becoming very useful in the future. And while I was glad to see MM go after that heat signature in the middle of the field, I do wish they would have shown a good shot of the FLIR when the heat signature ‘sped off’ as Swamp Apes are reported to do.

  9. Redrose999 responds:

    It was a lot better than the first ep. I do twitch when they speak of bigfoot like it’s a known classified animal (rather than a possible cryptid species or myth), in science one should never make assumptions. However, since the show is about “finding bigfoot” I won’t harp on it as a negative. It isn’t an important detail because the show is as much about the people doing it, and they are “believers” out to prove to the world it exists rather than skeptics trying to prove to the world it doesn’t. It’s an interesting twist that makes the show interesting since the latter horse has been beaten to death. We are seeing the world of BF research though the eyes of believers.

    My only real problem with the episode was that they left the first location, when they were having Skunk ape activity. Why not stay, set up camp for a few weeks? You’ve got everything you need there. I suspect it’s because of the established made for TV formula. They seem to be moving around to two locations and talking to several eyewitnesses rather than sticking to one place and sticking it out for a few weeks (only so much time would be allowed I guess). I’m not disappointed in the visit to the Seminole reservation, it was interesting to hear the eye witness stories. I just wish we could have heard more Skunk ape history from the Seminoles.

    Well, I do hope the BFRO will return to the house for some more extensive research in the future. I know you can’t pack the long process of scientific research in a television show because it’s not very entertaining and you need to keep on schedule. Sounds like they’ve got a place they can actually stake out and find the darned critter, if it exists. But then again, you need a body to convince the grown up in me.

  10. Kahil responds:

    wow… a bear f*rts in the woods and Moneymaker believes a Skunk Ape is there…lol…

    @TimmyRyan65 – You’re right. Their “science” isn’t science. Its made up junk. Alligators don’t leave methane pockets…lol…wow… What do the alligators do? Swim down, dig a hole, f*rt, and then seal it up just so a skunk ape can wallow in it? Paleeze…lol… If they did their due diligence, then they’d know that the methane in swamps is due to the abundance of organic material in the swamps decaying. The methane is just a natural byproduct of that process.

  11. TimmyRyan65 responds:

    I also found it convenient that Bobo fell down as he had something on the thermal. This and missing the object in front of Matt Moneymaker standing in the field tells me they should let someone else hold the Thermal Camera! ;)

  12. Redrose999 responds:

    I’d also like to add I missed the first 8 min. I glanced at the other posts, and Kahil made a nice point about the other animals in the area. This is why you need to stay a few weeks and eliminate the native species as the creature harassing the home owners before jumping on the Skunkape train. But again, don’t think that’s what the show is about in the end.

  13. flame821 responds:

    The only possibility I can realistically come up with for not showing some of the evidence and subsequent follow up is if they decide to do a ‘follow up’ season. Like River Monsters: Unhooked, a behind the scenes look at what they did that season. This is a cheap and effective way of getting more bang for your buck on the network/production side and that may well be why they are not showing things like the heat signature running off. perhaps more of the Seminole stories of Swamp Ape history and interactions will be there too.

    I really don’t know, I’m just throwing darts in the dark. But it would make sense from a marketing and money point of view.

  14. Loren Coleman responds:

    Or, flame821, it could be because the “thermals” shown were recreations, i.e. not real.

  15. TimmyRyan65 responds:

    It would only be a “recreation” if there was something really there in the first place to “re-create”.

  16. Kahil responds:

    lol… I can see what others are saying about the facts… More and more throughout this show Moneymaker keeps stating things as though they are absolute facts. He acts as though, and probably thinks that, he is the Jane Fossey of Bigfoot. Its just getting more and more obvious that the show is nothing more than a made for TV mocumentary.

    Disappointed that there still isn’t a good crypto show on TV that takes it seriously…that finds facts rather than faking facts or just repeating the same info we’ve seen a hundred times. Good thing I’ve got me some Cryptomundo to rely on. Oh well…what else is on TV?

  17. Michael A. Frizzell responds:

    Someone dropped the ball on the Skunk Ape science quiz.
    The quiz asks viewers:

    What is the reason behind the Skunk Ape’s foul odor?
    A. Methane
    B. Diet
    C. Defense mechanism

    The answer given was: A. Methane

    In and of itself, that answer is clearly incorrect. Methane (CH4) is a colorless, ODORLESS, and highly flammable gas that is often a by-product of organic decomposition in swampy areas. An appropriate answer would have been a sulfur-bearing thiol compound such as methyl mercaptan. Methyl mercaptan is an extremely foul-smelling material (often described as rotten eggs or rotten cabbage) that can be evolved from the decomposing organic material found in swamps. However, such thiols can be found in association with methane.

  18. Chris Crump via Facebook responds:

    find it strange how they didnt show the figure running away from matt on the thermal camera…..a deer imo

  19. flame821 responds:

    @ Loren Coleman

    True. But I’m trying to give them the benefit of the doubt. I would really and truly hate to think that they would ‘fake/recreate’ evidence like that. Although as I was downstairs making tomorrow’s lunch for hubby, I did see the replay and the thermal image again. It does’t scream biped to me. To be honest my first assumption was ‘its a cow’ but cows do not live in the everglades and even if one or two wandered in I doubt they would last long.

  20. Loren Coleman responds:

    Episode one from Georgia was discovered to have contained a larger than expected number of edited-in sounds, images, and recreations. All were only revealed after the screening.

    I am not saying “fake”; I am noting that the problem with understanding the thermals in this Florida episode is that we do not know what the producers and editors have inserted into these episodes for melodramatic docudrama effect.

  21. Keith Bryant via Facebook responds:

    Overall, it was a good show but I would have liked to see the “suspect” running into the woods near the end of the show. Why edit that out?

  22. Michael Giordano Ciesielski via Facebook responds:

    BOBO SHOULD HAVE WALKED TOWARDS THE FIGURE WITH THE THERMAL..

  23. Roy J Lores via Facebook responds:

    Because they need ratings and if they show it was a bear or a deer they might lose ratins or so they think, frankly I would not mind seeing them get something that is not BF, it feels too arranged…

  24. Jeff Caramagna via Facebook responds:

    You just cant leave out important footage. Particularly if it is part of the story line.

  25. gatorgaffney responds:

    I understand this is suppose to be reality TV but come on. The question is absurd which most of y’all already talked about and some of the “prints” are out there to say the least. The “thermal” at the end was ridiculous also. Why didn’t he walk up with Moneymaker with the thermal? No, instead he just waits for Moneymaker to walk up to it. And then they just say it just ran off. Well let me see the thermal of “it” running off. It’s addicting to watch, but I feel as if there isn’t much credible evidence. Another classic “reality” TV show

  26. Cisco responds:

    As has been said, this episode was much better than the first. I’m also a little frustrated in that they did not spend more time at the site where the couple have had a number of experiences. I thought the bird feeder evidence was a little weak. However, the thermal they got was pretty impressive and I just wish that they had spent a little more time analyzing it. Furthermore, it would have been nice to get a comparative image with a person standing in the same spot as the original FLIR image.

    Finally, the FLIR image with MM was very well done. Again, like many have said, they need to show the video of the thing running off. If the FLIR images were inserted for effect, I think that will really cut down on the shows credibility. I can’t imagine that the team would agree to something like that.

  27. Opalman responds:

    Gentlemen,

    Have you any recommendations to help the extreme anxiety I feel when I watch shows [like] the laughable Animal Planet episodes such as I viewed tonight, on Finding Bigfoot?

    Sometimes I can’t help but subject myself to the ridiculous bad science illustrated in programming such as the aforementioned Animal Planet series…. Maybe I feel a definite need to view firsthand the information so badly exhibited on these programs; perhaps to know firsthand what total [garbage] my family, friends and neighbors are being fed….!

    Some specific examples:

    Tonight’s Finding Bigfoot series hit an all time low, in my estimation. I have firsthand dealings with Moneymaker and the BFRO and have studied the Sasquatch phenomenon my entire adult life. In my opinion Moneymaker…only sees issues and evidence through his [own] perspective….

    Funny thing; while I am a self taught naturalist lifelong, experienced hunter, trapper and outdoorsman—in my thirty-five years of looking for Sasquatch I feel I have never so much as gotten even close to an actual sighting situation. How is it [those on this program] manage to get thermal images, footprint casts and audio recordings at every expedition? All of this does nothing but discourage real research that is so badly needed.

    In my mind there’s absolutely no doubt that an unrecognized, large hominid still roams the deep wilderness areas of the North American continent, [but this show] does much to hinder real research and so by default accelerate the demise of this remarkable creature.

    What we need is real research guided by gifted guides to penetrate the wildest areas of Northern California and similar habitats. These expeditions must hunt the target creature with peaceful motives and pure hearts—but; without the high tech electronics, especially infrared devices. (Passive thermal imaging devices are probably Okay as long as they’re completely noiseless at all frequencies.)

    [Edited, per the Terms of Use.]

  28. korollocke responds:

    Didn’t watch this one, opted for the new teen wolf show (surprisingly good!) but noticed most of my predictions were true, bogus prints, fake thermals and and impossible knowledge of skunk apes, ie: how and why they smell bad….allrighty then….when did anybody ever have a real live skunk ape to study in a lab to determine that nugget of knowledge?

    Something stinks on this show and it’s not theoretical apes.

  29. bigyeti responds:

    In regards to the figure on thermal that ran off, just before it cuts, you can see it move slightly. To me it then appeared to be on four legs. Something tells me it was a deer and the producers cut it so we could’t tell. They also cut any of the cast’s discussion/analysis of the footage, as they probably concluded it was not a “squatch” as well. After all, a deer doesn’t make for an exciting conclusion on a TV show. Just my opinion.

  30. MuskieSquatch responds:

    REALLY? They go to this couples’ house where the skunk ape has been visiting them and go out the first night they’re there and hear wood knocking, growls, and get a thermal sighting, and they decide to go to the Everglades so they can zero in on were the skunk ape may be hanging out. What’s wrong with this picture? Moneymaker is clearly not in charge of this. Did they at least put out trail cams around the house and property or did they spend all their money on night vison and thermal cams? The image they showed standing out in the field. Why didn’t they show it walking off into the trees? Makes you wonder what they really saw since it wasn’t shown. I have one question for Mr. Moneymaker. Do you plan on going back to the house where Skunk Ape has been visiting, after you’re done taping the series? If not, why? If you truly believe there’s one in the area, I would think you would be all over it like stink on a Skunk Ape. I would really like to get an honest answer on the question. What does everyone else think?

  31. Henry May via Facebook responds:

    It was a much better episode than last week. But I do wish the footage of the critter running away had been shown. I think it was either a deer or a cow. It did take some guts for Moneymaker to go forward towards the object, but I wanted to see the thing run away rather than just take Moneymaker’s word for it.

  32. gridbug responds:

    “…we do not know what the producers and editors have inserted into these episodes for melodramatic docudrama effect…”

    Loren has nailed the entire premise of this show on the head. Finding Bigfoot is not a science-driven program dedicated to the exploration of evidence in the hope that definitive proof will be uncovered. Not sure how they sold Moneymaker on the premise (or was it the other way around?) but all we have here is the next Fact or Faked: Paranormal Files in the making. Such a tragically wasted opportunity too, all in the name of ratings revenue.

    At least those old original 70′s episodes of In Search Of… are still the gold standard.

    :)

  33. NWesterner responds:

    Didn’t see it, but from reports sounds like I didn’t miss much. A safe prediction, they will end up not finding bigfoot in the flesh by the end of the shows run, but will have plenty of so called evidence in the form of fuzzy thermal images and dubious footprints (most likely all staged)!

  34. CDC responds:

    OH MY GOD PEOPLE ARE YOU SERIOUS???????

    This hour show is nothing more than an infomercial for Animal Planet and the BFRO.

    In my opinion, EVERYTHING shown as evidence on the first two episodes is either recreated, fake, hoaxed, misidentified, or just plain nonsense.

    Animal Planet and Discovery Communications do much work for nonprofit organizations, but their network does sell advertising time and the more popular the show the better time slot and the higher the price for ad time. The Animal Planet brand sells well throughout the world, now it gets to sell “Finding Bigfoot” tee shirts and other crap.

    As for the BFRO, they take folks on paid excursions into the woods to look for a Bigfoot type creature that science says does not exists. All the cost and expenses are paid by the public and all the profit goes to the BFRO.

    In my opinion an honest organization would wait untill science can state Bigfoot exists before it charges anyone to go on excursions into the woods to look for it. These aren’t Gorilla watching expeditions, they are more like Tooth Fairy searches where NO SOLID PROOF IS EVER FOUND!!!!

    All the talent and crew of “Finding Bigfoot” are paid well, which is a huge incentive to keep the show popular and on the air.

    When I read some of your comments on how the show was “well done” and “better than the first episode”, I had to laugh. I can now see how people can go to fortune tellers, faith healers, and Bigfoot expeditions.

    This whole show was a giant YAWN!!!! Stories around camp fires, bird feeders bent by white tailed deer, hand prints by a drunk husband sneeking in late one night, guys standing in the woods having witnesses say “yeah that’s it and have Moneymaker claim “yeah that’s typical sasquatch behavior”, etc, etc, etc.

    The one piece of possible solid evidence was the thermal hit, which again, for NO EXPLAINABLE REASON, was saved for the last 3 minutes of the show, and not clearly shown or replayed. FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE, and some of you claim, “wow, well done” OMG, LOL LOL LOL!!!!

    In my opinion this show “Finding Bigfoot” is a 100% waste of time. It is a blatant attempt to “CREATE” evidence to generate interest in Bigfoot to generate DOLLARS for EVERYONE INVOLVED!

    Matt Moneymaker will not dare come back here and try and backpeddle from what this show did again this week. He is done, and at this point I would put Tom Biscardi a level ahead of Moneymaker because you KNOW what you are getting with Biscardi.

    That thermal hit of a creature walking away was the money shot we never got to see. Some of you will tune in next week for more of the same, not me, and hopefully most people with any sense of self respect won’t either.

    I gave him a chance, two weeks of BS is enough to show what this show is about.

    Yeah 57 minutes to see 3 minutes of a thermal hit of nothing. In my opinion Matt Moneymaker should be ashamed of himself for not being honest with his viewers. At the 59th minute Matt Moneymaker says, “unbelievable” and then does not show the viewers what is, “unbelievable”. Yes your show is “unbelievable Matt…”unbelivebly BORING!!

    That’s the TRUTH!

  35. Oh Mah responds:

    I don’t expect anything from this show other than that it should be mildly entertaining. I think it is. I’ll probably tire of their formula after a few episodes, as with MonsterQuest, but for now it’s ok. How many different ways can you say, “Does Bigfoot exist? We don’t know, but isn’t it fun to think about it”?

    I’m a little concerned about the presentation of “facts”, such as “Skunk Apes smell because of the methane in the alligator dens they hide in (huh?)” – this said without any caveat mentioning that this is only a theory (like the existence of the Skunk Ape itself) could lead someone to take this at face value. Some distinction should be made between theory and established fact.

    I thought this episode was as good as the last. The script isn’t too much worse than what you’d hear on a MythBusters episode. Say what you want about Moneymaker, but he’s pretty good on camera, although I could get tired of him. The other three are good, too. Ranae should be allowed to say more. Bobo should be given more to do besides imitating Sasquatches. Cliff should play some guitar.

    I’ll keep watching. Nothing too substantial will be shown on this show, but maybe it’ll be sort of fun anyway.

  36. Craig Woolheater responds:

    Go to this post, Finding Bigfoot’s Cliff Barackman on Wood Knocks and Thermal Footage, for Cliff’s answers to many of these questions regarding last night’s episode of Finding Bigfoot.

  37. CDC responds:

    Yeah just learned the thermal hit was a horse.

    Matt Moneymaker cried out “unbelievable” when he saw a horse?

    I told you all this show is a 100% waste of time.

    Cliff Barackman has been upfront and honest at every point. I respect his integrity and commitment to his work.

    I do wish him well, and hope he finds better opportunities away from “Finding Bigfoot”.

    “Finding Bigfoot”? Animal Planet should stick to doing shows like River Monsters with Jeremy Wade…entertaining and interesting.

  38. Loren Coleman responds:

    Cliff says the last thermal shown was of a horse. Why aren’t we seeing that mentioned on the program? Why, because this show would be revealing it is manipulating its 1.5 million viewers. Cliff having a website and giving the reality of each episode is fine and good, but that doesn’t change the fact the program remains for the vast majority of those who will view it for years to come, presented as “nonfiction” when it clearly falls far short of that.

  39. herrback responds:

    I thought it was a pretty good show and it was very interesting to actually see the techniques that they used but I think the scene at the end with MM and the sasquatch would have been more convincing if they would have shown the movement of the creature and which way it moved. Otherwise, they did a really good job. I also thought it was kind of convenient how Bobo fell from the deck right when he had the creature in sight in the woods and of course when he got back up the creature was gone.

  40. Ulysses responds:

    One more thing: I bashed them and we all bashed them but hey, I like it! I wish I was there, we all wish we were there, out there doing it baby! I’m an avid fisherman and you catch two types of fish, the predators and the prey. Some actively hunt, while the others wait around for a meal, scrounge and forage. These guys are the on the hunt! Yes, it’s juiced up no doubt, because they’ve got us, now they need others to take a look and see just like, the show this really emulates Ghost Hunters, but I still wish I was there! Hats off and I’ll keep watching!

  41. BUKWASBOO responds:

    Well, I’d say, 50% good, 50% ridiculous. I found myself second guessing everything shown, and this “everything is evidence of a Bigfoot” approach will not win over any converts as my girlfriend gladly pointed out as she rolled her eyes and laughed through the whole show!

    Leaving everyone hanging on the thermal hit really irked me; the witness testimony was by far the best part of the show.

  42. ralphthedog responds:

    Yes the public at large is the victim of creative editing. Remember that this show is not for the “pro” squatcher.

    From Animal Planet (discovery) perspective, this is about a show that will bring in money. IT is an interesting premise but everything in the show is about bringing in viewers.

    Once you understand that the show begins to make a lot of sense. The BFRO becomes the central group to report sightings and also brings in a boatload of experience. The cast brings in enough variety to spice up the show. You have Bobo, who is seen as a klutz. You have a biologist and two experienced hunters.

    The show works for most of the population who aren’t out in the woods looking for Bigfoot.

  43. SirKen63 responds:

    First off want to say Hi to everyone ::Waves::

    Been viewing and reading this site for a few years now, but never registered. My questions were always made by others on the site and answered. I truly enjoy the site and the work that Loren and Craig do.

    Now for the reason I had to post was because like most of you I cannot sit and stay quiet while this show Finding Bigfoot is showing thermal or sound evidence that is either re-edited or not there. The thermal on last night’s show at the end was so wrong in so many ways. Now I know Animal Planet has the last say, and will edit it however they want. But don’t you think that Matt Moneymaker, or any of them in the BFRO would demand that this stop?

    I mean this is their name and reputation on the line here. Now I do not give a lot of credit to Matt Moneymaker, but he has done a lot for the search of Bigfoot. He has also done a lot of bad thing in search, and bragging making himself look not so good in the crypto community. But not standing up and being heard when the show you are on is mostly lies and taking out of context or images added. I would really love to know who thought a Skunk Ape smell came from them sleeping in a Aligator den….LOL

    This hoax commentary is from the BFRO site and if Matt really does agree with his post on his site, maybe he should say something.

  44. Ulysses responds:

    Believe it or not, mammals sweat! Apes sweat as well as humans. Given a hot, humid environment, lots of dirt and bacteria, given the fact they have buttocks and no wiping apparatus, supposedly small genitals and lots of hair that hold onto urine and feces and there you go! Stinkarooney!

  45. j stewart responds:

    i decided i would give the show a second critique so i attempted to watch it with an open mind. Its cleare that not one person on this show has any animal expertice or experience. Gators dont make methane pockets. now, you will find methane pockets in a swamp but gators dont make them. As stated above by another poster the smell comes from decaying plant matter on the bottom of the swamp. The host which I will not refer to by name made claims of what was “TYPICAL” Sasquatch behavior..I found this very interesting because I had no idea anyone knew what was typical or not typical about a creature which has never been found or proven to exist nor studied up close.. There has never been any wild group or a captured specimen to study. in order to say what is TYPICAL behavior you must first be able to make a long term study of a species as a whole by first hand observation and detailed analisis of the observation by animal behavioral experts. Once again my intellect was attacked by blurry half second images and sound bites of a misleading nature. AT least when you watched monster quest you knew what scenes were recreations and it was never passed off as real. This show had a chance but that chance has rapidly dwendled. It may be that the host has no controle over what is done in the editing room. On the other hand the host does have controle over his name and reputation being defamed by false statements and fabricated evidence.We are judged by the face we present to the public and when presented as a fabricator and hoaxer that will be how one is looked at. Given the track record of the past two shows I can only expect more of the same and I find my self watching more for a comedic affect than anything else. This show is good for a laugh and thats about it….

  46. flame821 responds:

    @ SirKen

    I read that article regarding a proposal to create a law making hoaxing TV or RADIO news broadcasts a crime. (Only TV or Radio, it seems they are somehow special)

    While I understand the rationale behind it, I feel it is little more than a lazy way to prevent ‘journalists’ from being caught with their trousers down. If all the telejournalists and radio personalities are capable of is mindlessly repeating what they’ve been told, then they deserve what they get. ANY amount of searching on the internet regarding the ‘frozen bigfoot’ would have set off alarm bells in the most naive of journalists. Several of the players had shady reps to begin with and that was well known LONG before the news stations started reporting things.

    No, I don’t agree with their ‘I’m special you aren’t allowed to trick me’ train of thought. If you want to be considered a serious news source, a journalists, an investigative reporter then do your job. INVESTIGATE it yourself. Broadcast companies like FOX, CNN, CBS, MSNBC ets have oodles of cash to throw at resources. Let them use those resources to actually report the news; critically and without the sensationalism and point-of-view that has come to represent the current “infotainment” that most new stations have become.

    As for MM agreeing with it or not; as much as MM’s attitude and behavior here have irked me, he personally does not have the power to dictate to the production company or the network what will or will not be shown. And since this show can hardly be considered a news program it wouldn’t fall under the ‘no hoaxing allowed’ law that they proposed.

  47. thegsmiths4 responds:

    I have been to the Bridges’ property. It is perfect bigfoot habitat. What wasn’t shown is that the house overlooks a “pocket” with a clear sand bottomed stream that wanders through a mature forest. There are lots of deer and other animal life. It looks like a movie set for a story about fairies.

    It is very possible that this area has been used by bigfoot for generations and they think the Bridges are trespassing. I think that since the property so perfectly fits their needs, the bf aren’t willing to give it up.

    Something Mrs. Bridges didn’t include in her story was that at first she didn’t know the hand print was on the inside. It wasn’t until she was going to clean the glass on that side for a better picture that she realized it. She was very upset to learn that something hadn’t just looked inside but had opened the door and could have come in.

    The Bridges are very good people. There is no doubt in my mind that their stories are real. There have been many incidents like the hand print. The one thing that hasn’t happened is the Bridges being physically harmed.

  48. Loren Coleman responds:

    Matt Moneymaker has shared some comments on this episode. Please click and read here for more.

  49. SirKen63 responds:

    @ Flame821

    That article was from Matt Moneymaker from the BFRO. I was just stating that if he really thought that then how can he put his name to Finding Bigfoot?

  50. fuzzy responds:

    Opalman – “How is it [those on this program] manage to get thermal images, footprint casts and audio recordings at every expedition? All of this does nothing but discourage real research that is so badly needed.”

    Well, the answer is, they don’t! Sometimes they get NOTHING, but that doesn’t make for good TV… that’s why there’s so much griping herein about the falsifications & modifications etc.

    However, the BFRO DOES have a LOT of success on their Expeditions for one major reason: they have access to recent reports from everywhere, and they combine that data with their archival statistics, and they analyze that information, and then they go where the creatures are!!

    Go to BFRO.com, take a look for yourself… look at your area on the map, see where reports have come from most recently, go buy several thousand dollars worth of electronic equipment and camping gear, and go where the creatures have been reported!

    Piece of cake!

    Right?

  51. fuzzy responds:

    OOps! SORRY- that’s BFRO.net, NOT .com ~ click on the map, then your state, then clik the County, then on the Reports, and start reading.

    Then start dreaming!

  52. gridbug responds:

    There should probably be a distinction made in that the BFRO really is one of the best go-to sites for witness reports despite the recent freakout in here about Moneymaker’s character traits. The fact that they haven’t reinstated the Cryptomundo link on their home page is still a strike against them though. This isn’t the fourth grade, Matt. Man up and do the right thing for the greater good.

  53. PA DUDE responds:

    The fence probably got messed up by a tree branch.

    REMEMBER! Don’t ever think about turning in a claim on a damaged fence because now the insurance agencies have proof of Bigfoot doing it and he is not listed in your policy as a covered occurrence.

    Don’t edit anymore of the episodes like that again. Every dude watching wanted to observe the gait of the creature exiting the meadow at the end, not cool.

  54. movingmanitou responds:

    i cant believe that some one actually thought it was a good idea to give this Moneymaker a tv show. i truly believe there is something out there that hasn’t been discovered yet, i am trying to convince my wife and almost have but people like him don’t do much for my argument. How can one claim to be an expert on something that hasn’t been proven to exist? I for instance am an expert on the invisible flying squigglebloob, now prove that i am not. Can i have a tv show? first i’ll need a little advance so i can do some field research and make up some scientific facts. Please, some one get this clown off the air, he’s doing more harm than good.

  55. ithilien responds:

    the reason they did not show the thermal image moving away was because it would have revealed that it was not, indeed, a bigfoot.
    people, i understand the fun and excitement of a tv show like this, but you MUST remain skeptical of what you are shown. it’s a tv show for god’s sake. they have to have something evidentiary to show or no viewers, no ratings and no renewal. And they have to have a shill to drive the conversation and create some buzz about the show.

  56. Opalman responds:

    Hi Fuzzy,
    Your defense of an organization driven by their exalted leaders immense ego kinda makes me feel all “Fuzzy” Inside.
    Seriously; as I already mentioned, I have first hand dealings with the BRFO. I was banned from their site because I suggested that their expeditions be mindful of the ever more common incidents of bear maulings and that the nessisary precautions be taken in the deep bush. I need not be instructed by the obvious, sir.
    I stand proud to never have any affiliation with the BFRO and their exalted leader. I’m going out on a linb here but, as anyone that knows me will be glad to tell you “I’ve forgotton more about wildlife and the outdoors than MM will ever know.
    Additionally as anyone that knows me well will tell you; I detest liars.



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