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Russian Hominologist Speaks: Exclusive Update

Posted by: Loren Coleman on October 13th, 2010

Famed Russian hominologist Igor Bourtsev has sent to Cryptomundo some extended thoughts that further detail his knowledge and speculations regarding Russian and American hominological (“Snowman,” “Bigfoot,” etc.) incidents and past research he has conducted.

For example, Dr. Bourtsev writes, regarding questions about bear and unknown hominoid interactions:

As to Bigfoot warring with bears I know two cases: one from the USA – a BF ad a bear were wrestling on the snow, but no blood left, and another case happened in north of Russia some five years ago when Bigfoot killed the bear when rescueing a man.

There were also some other cases when they dispersed peacefully.

Carter Family Drawing

The first meeting of 7 year old Janice with 28 year old bigfoot Fox in 1972. Her grandfather Robert Carter defended her that time.

Carter Family Drawing

The Fox’s mate Sheba with children, as Janice observed them in 1973.

Carter Family Drawing

The battle of Fox with a stranger BF. His small (3-4 year old) son Blacky helping him. The same 1973.

Carter Family Drawing

The grandfather teaching Fox to cook mashmallow on fire, and

Carter Family Drawing

Fox cooking mashmallow himself.

Carter Family Drawing

As to the Carter case:

Thank you friends for your good wishes to me!
But as to the case of Carter farm – I investigated it for five weeks living there in September 2004 and I’m sure the info was genuine. Why am I sure?
This conclusion is based on the following evidence:
1) footprints left by one of the creatures in the basement of the house on the loosened earth of the floor; the creature had entered the basement for food specially left for it; the food was taken by it from a plastic bag hanging from the ceiling;
2) so-called markers made of logs, wooden poles, sticks, stems, etc., mostly pyramid-shaped, or bent and twisted young trees;
similar markers we have found in hominoid habitats in Russia and they have been reported from elsewhere in North America;
3) BF “nests”, identified in particular by the proximity of the markers and definite signs of handy work;
4) abundant hair found by me in these nests, some hairs with nits (of lice) bigger than human ones; the hair clearly belonged to different specimens; similar hair samples found earlier at the farm have been identified by Dr. Fahrenbach as BF hair;
5) an interesting artifact: a clay ball with hair in it sticking outside as a small tail. The thing is definitely handmade and is probably some kind of BF toy (according to Janice the BF family there has a one and a half year old baby).

All of that is confirmation that Mary Green and Janice Carter have mostly described the truth in their “semi-finished product” of a book called “50 Years with Bigfoot.”

I want to add re” Carter farm case:
The history repeats.
Three decades ago I was seeking to prove the identity of Patterson’s footage after a very serious investigation. I personally was studying it for several years attracting specialists in biomecanics, anatomy of man, criminalists, sculptors, prothetists and, of course, by myself. I even created a sculpture of Patty on that film – the only sculpture in all my life, and it is known now in America also – and in 1997 on behalf of 30th anniversary of the footage I published as a publisher the book about this investigation by Dmitri Bayanov “Americas Bigfoot: Fact, not Fiction” (it is still available for ordering).
And the Americans in that time rejected the footage and just not long ago started to investigate it more attentively using new acheavements in computer technology (especially Marlon K.Davis and after – Jeff Meldrum) and only confirmed our conclusions on the film. (We have such a proverb in Russia for such a case: “they discover America again” :))

I suspect that Greg102 is Greg Long, the author of the 476 pp book “The Making of Bigfoot” who tried to blacken/slander Patterson and for this put many falsehoods in his book.
And now he tries to humiliate me.
But he will not succeed in such attempts.

Submitted by:

Igor Bourtsev, Ph D (Hist), Russian hominologist,
Director of the International Center of Hominology,
Moscow, Russia

Loren Coleman – has written 5491 posts on this site.
Loren Coleman is one of the world’s leading cryptozoologists, some say “the” leading. Certainly, he is acknowledged as the current living American researcher and writer who has most popularized cryptozoology in the late 20th and early 21st centuries. Starting his fieldwork and investigations in 1960, after traveling and trekking extensively in pursuit of cryptozoological mysteries, Coleman began writing to share his experiences in 1969. An honorary member of Ivan T. Sanderson’s Society for the Investigation of the Unexplained in the 1970s, Coleman has been bestowed with similar honorary memberships of the North Idaho College Cryptozoology Club in 1983, and in subsequent years, that of the British Columbia Scientific Cryptozoology Club, CryptoSafari International, and other international organizations. He was also a Life Member and Benefactor of the International Society of Cryptozoology (now-defunct). Loren Coleman’s daily blog, as a member of the Cryptomundo Team, served as an ongoing avenue of communication for the ever-growing body of cryptozoo news from 2005 through 2013.


13 Responses to “Russian Hominologist Speaks: Exclusive Update”

  1. Igor Bourtsev responds:

    I should add to Carter case that the pics/sketches used here made by my daughter-in-law Lidya Burtseva.

  2. zigoapex responds:

    I saw a movie in the 70′s that was in the theaters,can’t remember the name of it,but
    in one scene they showed a grizzly bear was ripped apart and they did comment about it
    that it could have been done by bigfoot.

  3. wshinhamjr responds:

    I respect your work Igor to the utmost but is there any reason why the Carter lady could not have bought a simple disposable camera or better yet borrowed a video camera or even a digital one? A clear picture would really help as supportive evidence as would a video.

  4. nimravus responds:

    Zigoapex,

    The film was “The Legend of Bigfoot”. There was indeed a decaying bear carcass shown (something one wouldn’t expect to run across, I should think…) and it was offered as speculation that a bigfoot might’ve killed it by the narrator.

  5. Kopite responds:

    I’ve got a lot of respect for Igor Bourtsev (and Bayanov) and his efforts over the last 4 decades or so.

    However I am extremely skeptical of the Carter/Green claim and will remain so.

    It’s one thing for fleeting and fast happening multiple visits to a remote cabin, such as the Kola Peninsula incidents in Russia in the late 1980s, or the breif Maya Bykova reports of ‘Mecheny’ in Siberia around the same time but this expansive and hard to imagine Carter claim of almost permanent habituation over many many years and yet still nothing concrete stretches my credulity. Teaching a bigfoot how to cook marshmallows and yet not one picture of this?

  6. Greg102 responds:

    Igor- I am not the greg long who wrote the book. So if he has tried to slander you that’s his business and nothing to do with me. In the past I have stated on this site in previous postings that I support your efforts and wish you luck. When it comes to the Carter Farm claims, I believe this is nothing but lies and a hoax tied to their claims. It is unfortunate that you have believed the claims on the farm, and that’s your right to do so. You are a legitimate scientist so i find it fascinating that you can’t see the carter farm for what it obviously is, a complete lie. I wish you luck in your yeti and almas search, but don’t waste another second on bigfoot on the carter farm as you will be wasting your time and resources.

  7. Igor Bourtsev responds:

    Once again to Greg102: Why you don’t answer concretely to my 5 points of findings there but just repeating your imagination?

    IMAGINATION, not the facts…

    Those 5 points findings were VERY material, not MADE UP!

  8. Daviv Kamore responds:

    Doctor Bourtsev, I am interested in your work and have many questions. Point number four found in this article above says that the hairs have been “identified” as having come from a Bigfoot, how is this done? Have you done any DNA testing on the hairs? Do the hairs seem to match any other suspected Bigfoot hairs? Are there any strange fingerprints on the clay ball? Please do not think I criticize I am just curious. The fact that there has never been a photograph taken of this habituated hominid is very peculiar to me since these events have allegedly occurred for decades. I am convinced of the existence of these undiscovered hominids in many locations around the world but if these claims are not true it could deal a serious blow to an already heavily criticized field of research. So, is there any chance to use a camera? A clear photo or even better, a video of Bigfoot toasting a marshmallow with the kids would make the creationists heads pop. Sorry to ask so many questions but I am a curious anthropology student who wants to watch the world react to the scientific validation of Bigfoot.

  9. Greg102 responds:

    Igor-

    to address your 5 points…

    Points 1,2,3,5 could all be done by Janice and her sister.

    The footprint is very vague, and its quite convenient it’s human size. What features in this print, say bigfoot and not a hoaxed print or a human?

    Are you saying that Janice couldn’t have made the nest, wood markings, and the clay ball?

    What sticks out in these pieces of evidence point to an obvious bigfoot connection and not a normal human?

    Clay Ball pic

    As far as point 4 on the hairs, I’m curious to see your response to Daviv Kamore’s questions on the hairs.

    So back to the original discussion. I deal with scientific facts and NOT imaginations. I’m trying to understand how a scientist can be so convinced by such marginal “evidence” if we can even call most of the carter farm points, evidence. I admire your interest in this field, and that’s why I recommend you spend your time and resources and much better claims of bigfoot than the carter farm. There is no serious American bigfoot researcher that thinks the Carter farm is anything but a dubious lie, and not even a good hoax at that.

    Again, I commend you on your interest and work and don’t want to see you waste your resources on the carter farm.

    To believe a whole entire family of bigfoot have interacted on the 2.5 acre Carter farm for 50 years and not a single shred of concrete evidence has ever came about, and not a single neighbor of the carter farm says there is no hint of a bigfoot, and to believe in that, I say is IMAGINATION, not science.

    I’m not here to ridicule you, as I want concrete proof to someday come about on the existence of bigfoot, but it will never happen investigating the Carter Farm.

  10. Igor Bourtsev responds:

    Dear friends, believers and opponents, agreeable ones and skeptics!

    I’m 70 now, I have not enough time of my remaining life to waste it for repeating again and again to some skeptics here and to other skeptics there the proves of Janice Carter’s honesty. I prefer to spend my limited time and efforts to investigate the nature of those mysterious creatures (including a new visit to Janice soon to another place) and write about this in my articles and the book. Unfortunately I’ve published articles in Russian, and none book yet, but up to now I almost have finished one book in English, which includes a chapter about Carter farm case.

    To answer your questions I should present you that chapter, and you could learn why Janice could not make up those “fairy tales”, stick structures, bent and twisted tree trunks, nests, clay ball, footprints, hairs, etc. etc., and that her land was not of 2.5 but almost 100 acres which I have walked on far and wide.

    If I write to answer to every skeptic personally (and you are not only of them, I have quite enough of them in my country also, mostly with doctorate degree), I never shall fulfill my plans of positive research and investigation, field work, correspondence and cooperation to my like-minded persons, and publishing works.

    Take in consideration also that nobody spends a cent to pay me for this research and searches and even to feed me, I should earn all the means by myself (such trips as to Kemerovo region is exclusion, but that was NOT my expedition, they ATTRACTED me for THEIR purposes).

    That is why I shall not continue to argue here with those, who require the proves, though I get such proves more than enough.

    Thank you for attention, your support and your objections also. I’ll present my answers in that my book.

  11. Daviv Kamore responds:

    Doctor Bourtsev, Thank you for taking the time to answer our posts. I can certainly appreciate your predicament and would gladly donate some funds to your cause if I were not a poor, jobless student. I eagerly await any publication you may release and I will certainly be purchasing any as soon as they become available with my pathetically overtaxed credit card. If you could direct me to any web resources available in your native tongue (which I will copy and paste into google translator to read) I, and I am sure many people here, would greatly appreciate it. Thank you again Doctor.

  12. Igor Bourtsev responds:

    Just a short remark, a quotation of the last comment by another TN researcher:
    Igor,
    I understand that you are coming to Tennessee soon, will you be coming near Nashville. I have a research area with a rich history, and a fair amount of activity. There has activity there since the 1860′s. Nathan Davis and I saw three Sasquatch there last October. This October I heard them screaming. I think I met you one time at Standing Stone Park in Tn.
    Johnny Henderson

  13. revellyre responds:

    Dr. Bourtsev,

    Let me preface this by stating that I have an almost total belief in the possibility that Bigfoot exists. Living in the Pacific Northwest and being nearly surrounded by primordial green, it is none too hard to feel as I do; although I have never had the pleasure of encountering one, myself.

    Now that that’s out of the way, I want to add that here in the US we have a concept that you probably have heard of called, “Guilty by Association.”

    I mention this because you do great disservice to yourself and the field as a whole by scribing your well regarded name beside what many refer to as the Carter Farm Con Artists. Even some of the truest of believers recognize this bunch as almost certain hoaxers and tricksters of the lowest common denominator.

    Regrettably, I can only assume you are allowing your deep, compassionate, and honest desire to get to the bottom of this enigma – even if it means sticking your hand in every viper’s nest from British Columbia to the Ural Mountains- blind you to what is obviously just another scheme to make a profit off the sasquatch phenomena at the expense of reputable researchers like yourself.

    Simply put, endorsing Carter Farm’s tall tale would make anyone look like a fraud, dupe, or laughingstock and you’ve done too much in this field to fall into any of these categories.

    I also wholeheartedly believe that featuring the Carter Farm material in your latest work will not only irreparably damage book sales but create even more hardened skeptics in a field that is already rife with them.

    Please reconsider journeying to Carter Farm or mentioning this empty promise of a place in a work that I am sure will be an otherwise brilliant addition to understanding the mystery that is sasquatch.

    Signed,

    A fan



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