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Mystery Animal Photos

Posted by: Loren Coleman on August 16th, 2006

Maine Mystery Beast

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Photograph by Michelle O’Donnell. Used by permission.

Maine Mystery Beast

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Photograph by Michelle O’Donnell. Used by permission.

Maine Mystery Beast

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Photograph by Michelle O’Donnell. Used by permission.

When the reporter from the Sun-Journal hinted via a comment on my blog at Cryptomundo, then called me, saying he had pictures of a “mystery animal” he wished for me to examine, of course, I thought he was talking about another coyote with mange, running through a field somewhere. I was surprised when he sent along photographs of the body of a dead black mystery canid. He wanted me to wait until he wrote his story to break the news here. Cryptozoology has a way of unfolding according to its own time schedule.

Wednesday, August 16, 2006, “Mysterious Beast” is published in Lewiston, Maine’s Sun-Journal and reporter Mark LaFlamme details the events surrounding this case clearly.

The article runs with one of the photographs taken at the scene. At Cryptomundo, three shared with me are posted, with permission by Mark LaFlamme, in an attempt to look for more answers. See below. (Later updates to the Sun-Journal site show they have added one of the headshot pictures taken by Ms. Michelle O’Donnell since I posted all three pix this morning.)

Mark LaFlamme writes:

Turner [Maine] – An animal found dead along the powerlines over the weekend may be the mystery creature that has roamed the area for years, mauling dogs and frightening residents. Or it could be a dog that has been running wild in the woods. It depends on who you ask.

The animal was found along Route 4 on Saturday [August 12, 2006] after neighbors say it was struck by a car while chasing a cat across the street. The carcass was photographed and inspected by several people who live in the area, but nobody seems to know what it might be.

LaFlamme continues later:

Wildlife officials and animal control officers told about the find declined to go to Turner to examine the remains. By Tuesday, the carcass had been picked clean by vultures and there was not much left of the dead animal.

But Loren Coleman, considered by some to be the leading cryptozoologist in the world, said one thing is clear: the creature found in Turner is not likely somebody’s pet. “It certainly doesn’t look like a chow or any kind of domesticated dog that I’ve seen,” Coleman said after reviewing photos of the animal. “It may be a hybrid between a dog and a wolf.”

LaFlamme gives a good overview of the recent history of the “Mystery Animal” reports:

Since 1991, residents across Androscoggin County have reported seeing and hearing a beast that defies classical description. Theories have ranged from a fisher, a coy dog, a hyena or a dingo to more fanciful ideas: some believe the local creature is Maine’s own Chupacabra.

In 2004, the enigmatic animal was blamed for attacking and killing a 16-year-old Doberman in Wales. Last year, it was a suspect when a Rottweiler was mauled in Greene. Others have reported seeing it or hearing the creature’s screams in the night.

Witnesses have said that the animal had eyes that glowed in the night. Others reported a high scream that chilled them. One woman considered moving out of her Litchfield home after hearing the animal’s monstrous cry one night in 1991.

Locally people did not quite know what to make of the animal.

Michelle O’Donnell said she spotted the animal near her yard roughly a week before the carcass was discovered. “It was evil, evil looking. And it had a horrible stench I will never forget,” she said. “We locked eyes for a few seconds and then it took off. I’ve lived in Maine my whole life and I’ve never seen anything like it.”

Down the road, Kenny Buck said it was his cat that was chased by the creature. The cat was found dead near Route 4 a day before the bigger, meaner beast was discovered. “That’s no dog,” he said of the dead animal found near his property.

Dana Johnson, a professional trapper known as “The Creature Catcher,” examined the photographs Tuesday night. His guess: a black coyote with abnormal features.

The neighbors who found the animal called a Maine game warden who told them he could not drive from Poland to Turner to inspect the remains. The warden told them it was probably a coyote and told them to research it online. They were advised to call Central Maine Power Co. to haul the carcass away, since it was found near the powerlines.

Michelle O’Donnell said she researched the Internet extensively and could not identify the animal that way. She and her husband said they were more interested in finding out what it is than having it hauled away in haste. “We’ve been hearing stories about this thing for years – about this thing that’s been attacking, shredding and eating other animals,” said Mike O’Donnell. “This is something that’s not supposed to be out there.”

The Lewiston paper then comes back to me, but carries a misquote:

Coleman, the cryptozoologist who has been studying wildlife for 46 years and who has written 27 books on the subject, said he was bothered by the ears and the snout of the creature found in Turner. It reminded him of a case years ago in Northern Maine in which an animal shot by a hunter could not be identified. So perplexing was that case, wildlife officials sent away for DNA analysis. In the end, it was declared a rare wolf-dog hybrid.

What I had actually said to Mark LaFlamme on the phone and then through a forwarded archival article on the case, the federal wildlife DNA tests on the 1993 black canid killed officially demonstrated it was not a wolf-dog hybrid, but a pure strain of wolf, a rare black wolf, that probably came down from Canada. I wondered, could this be another melanistic wolf ? Or was it a mix? Or a black dog? I’ll have to drive up there to get DNA samples myself, apparently, as the situation is not being taken seriously by officials, as you can see from this article.

Mark LaFlamme goes on in his article to summarize how people feel, especially since the attacks in 2004, and writes that many feel there is a “mystery monster” roaming the area.

The article concludes:

What was found dead in Turner over the weekend was described as charcoal gray and weighing between 40 and 50 pounds. It had a bushy tail, an extremely short snout and short ears. There were also curled fangs hanging over the lips.

“It looked,” said Mike O’Donnell, “like something out of a Stephen King story.”

For the complete story and the Sun-Journal photographs of the people involved, see Mark LaFlamme’s article.

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Update: The story has been picked up by the Associated Press during the afternoon of the 16th, under the headline “Mystery Beast Discovered in Maine.”

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What canid do you think this is?

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Further News, August 17, 2006. Please click on“Maine Beast Update

About Loren Coleman
Loren Coleman is one of the world’s leading cryptozoologists, some say “the” leading. Certainly, he is acknowledged as the current living American researcher and writer who has most popularized cryptozoology in the late 20th and early 21st centuries. Starting his fieldwork and investigations in 1960, after traveling and trekking extensively in pursuit of cryptozoological mysteries, Coleman began writing to share his experiences in 1969. An honorary member of Ivan T. Sanderson’s Society for the Investigation of the Unexplained in the 1970s, Coleman has been bestowed with similar honorary memberships of the North Idaho College Cryptozoology Club in 1983, and in subsequent years, that of the British Columbia Scientific Cryptozoology Club, CryptoSafari International, and other international organizations. He was also a Life Member and Benefactor of the International Society of Cryptozoology (now-defunct). Loren Coleman’s daily blog, as a member of the Cryptomundo Team, served as an ongoing avenue of communication for the ever-growing body of cryptozoo news from 2005 through 2013.


54 Responses to “Mystery Animal Photos”

  1. mystic eyes responds:

    Why the fuss? There is nothing mysterious about the poor thing.It was nothing more than a plain canine that was badly crossed possibly while in the state of neglect under such environment .A detailed DNA analysis would provide the much needed answer. May land up as a hybrid wolf-dog or whatever, you know with the test result.

  2. jayman responds:

    I see nothing to rule out a Chow or part Chow mix. The black mucous membranes of the lips are suggestive, as is the size, short blocky muzzle, broad head, etc. Too bad somebody didn’t check to see if the tongue and roof of the mouth were black too.

  3. oldbutnotstupid responds:

    I think it may be a cross. A Newfoundlander and a shepard possibly. I thought Newfoundlander the moment I saw the photo.

    These animals are big, black and friendly, but in the wild, who knows.

    Black wolf is a possiblity but only DNA will tell for sure.

    Can’t wait to see more on this. very interesting.

  4. fredfacker responds:

    Here’s a couple links to chow mixes for comparison:

    Chow mix 1

    Chow mix 2

    Chow mix 3

    Chow mix 4

    Chow mix 5

    I see similarities, yet differences. It does have wolf-looking eyes to me though.

  5. Bullett responds:

    As a Lewiston ME resident I can advise you not to take the misquote personally. The Sun-Journal is notorious for it.

    I read the article myself and was a bit surprised that it really didn’t mention anything about the cryptozoology community getting involved.

    If you do come to Lewiston make sure you see the killer cryptozoology exibit at Bates College.

  6. timi_hendrix responds:

    I see nothing unusual about these pictures.

    Test DNA and move on.

  7. bigsassy responds:

    I don’t know how you look closely at these photos and don’t see anything unusual. This most likely is a wolf hybrid but the head is definately unusual.

  8. planettom responds:

    Upon first glance of the pictures, my initial thought was that it is a Chow, or most likely a Chow-mix. Anything is possible. Poor doggy.

  9. harleyb responds:

    It’s a werewolf mixed with a chow.

  10. Finback responds:

    Really, beyond a “canid”, what else is there to hope for? It’s plainly NOT some sort of OOP hyena or other exotic. It’s not a freakish mutant, or new species. What’s the big deal, as it were, over what’s going to be a member of the fairly common genus, _Canis_?

    Also, “There were also curled fangs hanging over the lips.”

    Heaven forbid that any decomposition and dessication cause the lips to draw back – they make it sound like it’s got saberteeth or something.

    If more people adhered to the basic rules of 1. Check dentition. 2. If 1 does not help, check DNA, we’d not end up wasting so much of our time on minor trivialities like this..

  11. kaboobi responds:

    Although I definetly agree that it is unusual, I cant see it being anything but a mixed breed of some kind..But what is interesting to me is that a 40-50lb whatever it is, is going around mauling other dogs…a rottweiller nontheless…

  12. tapper responds:

    It’s definitely a dog, so what’s big deal? It almost reminds me of a coyote because of the size of the head but I’ve seen dogs that are much uglier and less ‘dog looking’ than this (a friend in Colorado has a pit mix that looks like an alien being of some kind, no joke). This one looks like a Chow mix runt.

  13. LaFlamme responds:

    In an informal poll of about a hundred people last night, opinions were almost evenly split. Half thought it was a mere dog running wild, half thought it was something from hell. The eye of the beholder and all that. Let’s get some DNA.

  14. bccryptid responds:

    I agree with the majority of posts – with all the breed variants in today’s canine population, and the frequency of wild dogs getting released into the wild by bad owners or just running away, there is no reason to believe this is anything other than a mutt-breed isolated individual. Such one-off mutations are a normal part and function of evolution, aren’t they? (can’t wait till the ‘dog that can find the tv remote’ evolves)

    I do see why some eyewitnesses described it as hyena-like, though.

  15. moregon responds:

    First the three dogs killed on the island in Canada, and now this where the story is picked up by major media. Why? Is it because they’re suddenly aware of the growing interest in cryptids, so they jump on the bandwagon in hopes of increasing their readership? The danger is represented here, in these photographs. I don’t see anything to get overly excited about and agree with most that it’s probably a mixed breed dog, and nothing more. However, with headlines like, “Mystery Beast Discovered in Maine” becoming common place, it’s going to create more and more garbage to filter through before we find the answers.

  16. LaFlamme responds:

    It wasn’t meant to be sensational, moregon. There was earnest debate about the nature of this animal and a glaring indifference among the state wildlife experts. That alone made the discovery of interest as a news story. If we can pin down what kind of animal this is — even if it proves to be a chow named Patches — I’ll write that up, too. I’m not expert on zoology. That’s why I look up people like Mr. Coleman when I am assigned to a story like this.

  17. greywolf responds:

    I have seen and photographed wolves at a wildlife sanctuary and that does not look like a wolf. An average greywolf is about 3′ at the shoulder, 4 to 5′ nose to tail and has long legs and weighs 40 to 150lbs . They have yellow/brown eyes and pointy ears. This looks like a bad mix dog.

  18. shovethenos responds:

    Some kind of mix with a short-muzzled breed of dog, possibly a chow. It’s possibly a wolf-dog or coyote-dog hybrid.

    Someone really should have gotten a hair sample before the body was picked over by vultures, that’s really sloppy.

  19. flickerbulbcom responds:

    it’s a dingo/pug mixed with a chow.

    obviously.

  20. MojoHotep responds:

    Blue Heeler mix, probably chow. Seen several almost identical to this one in the last couple of years. Short snout, blue eyes, black gums and all. Nasty critters attitude and appearance. They are very sneaky and will go feral in a snap. It is the dingo blood line, I think, that comes out when cross mixed.

    here’s what Wikepedia says:

    The precise origins of the “Blue Heeler” are not known, but they appear to have been a distinct breed as early as 1897. It appears that they developed from the mating of Border Collies and Smooth-coated Collies used for herding sheep and the Dingo or wild dog prevalent in Australia. These were further crossed with the English Bull Terrier.

  21. One Eyed Cat responds:

    My problem with dingo in the mix is that dingos — as far as I am aware –are in Australia. This animal was in North America.

    The blue eyes make me think some sort of dog is in the pedigree of the thing. Beyond that I defer to people with much more experience in this area

  22. truthseeker101 responds:

    In my opinion this is a “mixed” dog of some type, sheppard, chow? Irregardless of the type, speculation will be there until a definitive DNA test is performed.

  23. poodpood responds:

    It’s a dog.

  24. spcbat831 responds:

    It looks very much like an akita dog to me exactly bushy tail snout everything about it. Also important how long was it laying there.

  25. Toirtis responds:

    It does appear to have Inu (Japanese dog) blood in it…I would be surprised if it is not an akita or kai inu cross.

  26. chupacabraproblynot responds:

    I agree with those who don’t know what all the fuss is about. The head is very chow-like…very similar to a chow-mix I once had.

    The only thing remarkable about this supposed mystery creature is it’s eyes– I agree that they do look wolf-like. But hyena? No way!!! Blue heeler? Not even close!

    Also, the dog’s side looks mangey (unless that’s an injury from the collision).

  27. youcantryreachingme responds:

    It’s a shame we don’t have some sense of scale in the photos. If this is the same animal that allegedly brought down a doberman and mauled a rottweiler, it would be nice to see the size of it!

    Would anyone volunteer to fund the DNA analysis?

    Is this a one-off freak (for whatever reason such as cross-breeding or genetic mutation), or do you think this might be some new subspecies or species and that a group of them is breeding there?

  28. shovethenos responds:

    The “mystery creature” made the Drudge Report – it’s on there now.

    It someone is in the area it would be a good idea to get some DNA evidence.

  29. lastensugle responds:

    ye it’s a dog (dawg?), but even so, if it was first seen in 1991 and still was able to maul a rottweiler last year, at at least 14 years of age, it was still a pretty mean dog (dawg)!

  30. lastensugle responds:

    …assuming it was the same dog (dawg), which it probably weren`t.

  31. moregon responds:

    Mr. LaFlamme in your response to my post you said, “There was earnest debate about the nature of this animal and a glaring indifference among the state wildlife experts. That alone made the discovery of interest as a news story.”

    I’m trying to understand your postion more clearly, as to why this is not sensationalism. May I ask who debated the nature of the animal? I don’t need names, just were they people that had knowledge of various types of canines?

    I don’t know about your experiences, but the actions of the State wildlife experts is pretty much what I would have expected, due to past experiences I’ve had with them in two different states. It’s either that reaction, or, I’ll get back to you, and you never hear from them again.

  32. lastensugle responds:

    Now leave the dead dog alone …it’s a dead dog!

  33. traveler responds:

    I agree with the inu. When I first saw it, I thought wow, kinda like the shiba inu that we found wandering the street in shape and all that.

  34. Reanalt responds:

    Is it so hard to believe that there could be some sort of evolution here? I mean, granted, OUR society is digressing but there is something larger within this story than meets the eye.

    First impressions are all we have, as the local authorities aren’t much of an authority in anything. So, that being said, my first few observations were as such: The nose and snout are fairly reminiscent in the Sun Journal photos of a gorilla. In the Cryptomundo Exclusive photos, it looks much more like a hyena. Secondly, it’s fur has a blueish hue to it – seemingly consistent with some pelts found on gorillas.

    I think the one thing that stands out most is it’s non-likeness to a Chow. It would seem that people rationalize that in their mind because it’s something familiar they are comfortable with. I see that resemblance as a stretch.

    But then again, I’m a critical young man. :)

  35. brineblank responds:

    I was intrigued when I first found this sight and check in on it every day hoping something new and interesting would pop up. As a ‘monster’ fan from a young age and one that certainly believes there is good deal unknown (one prof I had said that less than 5% of the landmass has actually been physically surveyed by ‘European types’ (which unfortunately seems to be the standard and sometimes legit information may be lost because of such bias). HOWEVER, I am disappointed a bit to find 150 year old stories, continual hoaxes, journeys into the jungle that produce nothing, and now pictures of a dog. I realize not all finds are spectacular, that there needs to be a sense of history, and that hoaxes are a part of the game. But when this appears to be such a large part of the equation and there is such a case for hype and sensationalism abounding, I can definitely understand the skepticism and negative reaction of many towards ‘cryptoscience’. But keep on plugging along because I still enjoy the open debate and something always turns up eventually. Nice design on the headers BTW.

  36. Carlfoot responds:

    It’s a dog baby!

  37. greenteaaddict responds:

    It definitely looks like a chow-wolf cross, but the snout almost looks like a bear.

  38. LaFlamme responds:

    Yeah, there was general disgust about the indifference of the wildlife people. I didn’t realize that reaction was so commonplace. Why go into that branch if you have no inherent curiosity about these matters? Ah, you got me.

  39. LaFlamme responds:

    A man from Wisconsin sent along photos of his blue chow late Wednesday night. Very striking similarities. Of course, I’ll send those photos along to Mr. Coleman.

  40. mooppoint responds:

    brineblank,

    I tend to agree with everything you say in your post, but I think the open debate here is what really matters.

    I have no affiliation with the authors of this blog, but I do have questions in regard to the subjects discussed here for my own reasons. The great thing about this blog is that the authors aren’t afraid to throw ANYTHING – within reason – against the wall, and let the readers decide what sticks.

    That’s something you don’t find in many places, particularly the print media, of with which I’m … ummm, well … pretty familiar.

    As for this “mystery animal,” I just see a dead dog, probably of mixed breed.

    But I saw this story here first, and read a spirited discussion of the issue before the AP even dared to take a sniff of it.

    And that’s why I’ll continue to check in here on a daily basis.

    As you say, something always turns up eventually, and it’s almost always intriguing and interesting, if not based in reality or truth.

  41. Felinda responds:

    Akita – just like this one.

  42. dewhurst responds:

    The clue to the make up of this dog is its teeth.(Shar Pei like Chow Chows can have blue/black gums and tongues)

    The Shar Pei is the only canine breed I’m aware of that has curved teeth.The size of this dog 40-50 pounds rules out many larger breeds and certainly rules out Wolf cross breeds.

    For my money I would say that this is a Shar Pei (Chinese fighting dog-which would explain the aggression and its success with attacking larger breeds) and maybe a Chow Chow or possibly some other kind of Spitz type dog.

    Teh fact the dog had been living on its wits for some time would explain its readyness to scrap for food.

    It’s just a crying shame that yet another domestic dog (which undoubtably it was) ends up dead.

  43. Stormkloud responds:

    I see absolutely no wolf or wolf/hybrid in this dog. I have a chow/lab rescue that looks almost exactly like this dog.(my black chow/lab is brushed and is not feral)

    Most likely this dog being feral had matted fur, parasites and who knows what it had for nutrition. I see nothing scary about this dog, or wolf/coyote like in the least. The head shape, eye color and body shows no indication of wolf/coyote heritage in my opinion.

    Its really tiring that every time someone comes across anything they cannot explain, or seems “scary” they automatically assume its a wolf/hybrid or wolf. Its a lot easier to label something a wolfmix, than to actually take the time to discover and research the truth.

    Here you can see what my chow/lab rescue looks like.

  44. andrea responds:

    It’s a chow or mix, possibly with husky, and they can have blue eyes. Absolutely no mystery beast. I saw it and right away I said dead chow dog. Cripes, don’t any of these people have a dog? As for it killing two other larger dogs, those breeds killed can be big wimps. My little 12 pound Jack Russell can kill a 40 pound raccoon, and my friend’s 6 pound chihuahua ripped open the muzzle of his neighbor’s 150 pound Rottie. It just depends on the moxie of the dogs involved in the fight. For the record I do animal rescue and I’ve seen uglier dogs than this. Remember the world’s ugliest dog, a bald chinese crested that looked like heck? What would they have thought of that? Tell these people to get a life and save the “unknown factor” for real mysteries.

  45. swnoel responds:

    It appears that our readers have solved the case of another mysterious animal…

    The mystery solved …an ordinary dog.

    Good job guys and gals!!! LOL :-)

  46. cor2879 responds:

    Looks somewhat unusual to me. I doubt it’s the same animal that was responsible for sightings in 1991 however. It would have to be at least 16 or 17 years old at this point… and even in its dead state it really doesn’t have that ‘elderly dog’ look. Still whatever mauled that Rottweiler had to be something nasty itself. I’d say this is some kind of wolf or wolf/dog mix.

  47. markcih responds:

    Dogs have 78 chromosomes or 39 pairs; humans have 46 chromosomes or 23 pairs – hence dogs’ far greater variability in size/color/appearance. It’s a doggy.

  48. dharkheart responds:

    The muzzle appears shorter than one would expect to find if it was a known wolf species, although it could be an unknown wolf species, perhaps in a state of evolution.

    My gut instinct tells me it’s more likely a wolf/dog hybrid. Wolves are not “fighters”, per se. Many were tried, hybrids included, in the pit against fighting dogs, most notably, the Pit Bull, and they were found lacking. Since the animal reportedly killed a rottweiler and a doberman, I am more inclined to believe that a fighting breed, e.g., pit bull, tosa, pit bulldog, etcetera, might be a likely candidate for the cross.

    One thing that sent a shudder through me was the placement of the eyes: I was struck at how human-like they appeared.

  49. Cougar responds:

    As the proud owner of a Chow, an alpha male nun the less, I can honestly tell you He will not back down from ANTTHING! and he weighs a whopping 52 pounds. I agree with “dewhurst” The size of the animal rules out a wolf/hybrid mix. A wild wolf would probably viewed a dog as a meal not a mate. But people, Dont let the coat of this animal fool you, there are smooth coat Chows that look very different than their rough coat counter parts.In the Report they claim that they think this animal is thought to be responsible for killing a 16 year old Doberman. LOL! Did the dobie have any teeth? and as for the Rottwieler it killed, I dont doubt it for a Minute. And i agree with Andrea. If a Rottie is not raised to be aggressive and to get along with other dogs then the Rottie never had a chance, especialy with a wild ferrel chow mix. One last thing, the woman in the report said it had an awful stench. HELLO? do ya think mabey it got skunked in the process of trying to get a meal? Its a mutt people, plain and simple, living in the wild doing what canines do.

  50. Shadowbat responds:

    Must be the Puppy Chow.

  51. Chow-Newfie Owner responds:

    This poor little creature is undoubtedly a chow-mix dog. My Chow-Newfie, Koko, often gets uneasy stares from people as we walk by… but she’s just a sweetie underneath all the fur:

    http://web.mac.com/gmustico/iWeb/Site/Welcome_files/IMG_0662.png

  52. logisch responds:

    I just recently found those news in a german “summary news service” refering to the story on MSN.

    With some research i got to a forum pointing out it could be a Chow. Of course wikipedia describes chows as rather wide in color, hair and eyes
    varietys. Black and blue are
    definitely valid colors but yet not
    that wiedespread as those dogs are
    a bit more costly than others.

    Look at those Chow Chow puppy:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Blackchowpuppy.JPG

    It closely matches the eyes, the mouth and even the eyes. Other adult Chow Chow attributes might match a bit less, like the leg length and diameter. Chow is known to me as a dog with square side proportinality. The car victim rather indicates a lengthy base structure, some called it to be swine alike. Of course there are swine alike dogs. Please note that the “hips” and therefore the tail are wider than by most sheep dogs.

    Inspired by suggestions here in the
    forum i found an image link to this one:

    http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Star.jpg

    I think it already comes close if you ignore the color mismatch. In the photo it’s an American Akita (previousely Great Japanese Dog) – not to confuse with “native” Akita (Inu and Ken jsut means dog in japanese).

    I am not sure what mixture the dog in question is. If a chow is involved, then there is likely a second breed involved. The leg and tail might be the best hint for that one or two other line of genes. The mouth, ears, eyes, face, color and fur would fit into chow. Maybe the shown American Akita has already with some chow in it, at least he is already one of many flavours of its base race.

    Concerning the horror stories… on a farm in my area they had some 10 new cats every year, and due to the fact that the road is only a few 10 meters away, the farmers daughter brought it to the point with this “any few weeks one of the puppys vanished”. Its just that you might interconnect anything unresolfed with a single solution as
    soon as you see reason for building a row. In former times, the “beast” would
    have been gulty of drought, rain and whatever if having been in sight
    or even after beeing dead for sure.

  53. logisch responds:

    sorry for answering myselves…

    the tail of Chows and most Akitas are often building a wide circle by their muscle tension. the dead dog does not expose those thing, but think about it, he’s dead so no muscle tension anymore.

    let me be a bit entertaining… doent it look like Benji or Boomer just fallen in a bin with black ink? i am sure, some of the people would say yes to that, just because agreeing is easier than disagreeing…

  54. adoptpawz responds:

    Looks like a cross of Chow or rare breeds of Belgian Laekenois or Belgian Groenendael.



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