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Sasquatch Attack II

Posted by: Loren Coleman on November 16th, 2008

“Sasquatch Attack II” was broadcast on “MonsterQuest.” Did you see it and what did you think?

Something has been attacking a remote cabin in Northern Ontario, Canada–it may have left behind a blood trail. DNA analysis suggests that the creature is a non-human primate. A follow up test will confirm or deny this, and the results could change history. Meanwhile, a new expedition, outfitted with the most advanced surveillance and detection equipment, will set up camp at the cabin and wait for the creature’s imminent return. Scientists will be brought in to tell viewers what the evidence reveals.

About Loren Coleman
Loren Coleman is one of the world’s leading cryptozoologists, some say “the” leading. Certainly, he is acknowledged as the current living American researcher and writer who has most popularized cryptozoology in the late 20th and early 21st centuries. Starting his fieldwork and investigations in 1960, after traveling and trekking extensively in pursuit of cryptozoological mysteries, Coleman began writing to share his experiences in 1969. An honorary member of Ivan T. Sanderson’s Society for the Investigation of the Unexplained in the 1970s, Coleman has been bestowed with similar honorary memberships of the North Idaho College Cryptozoology Club in 1983, and in subsequent years, that of the British Columbia Scientific Cryptozoology Club, CryptoSafari International, and other international organizations. He was also a Life Member and Benefactor of the International Society of Cryptozoology (now-defunct). Loren Coleman’s daily blog, as a member of the Cryptomundo Team, served as an ongoing avenue of communication for the ever-growing body of cryptozoo news from 2005 through 2013.


55 Responses to “Sasquatch Attack II”

  1. shanet73 responds:

    What happened in the last 15 minutes? What was revealed? I fell asleep right after the team relocated to the Kenora area. No Tivo. No DVR. Help fill me in please!

  2. krvega responds:

    I felt last night’s show was wasted. I was really looking forward to the follow up episode. My hope was that they would have some startling new information or maybe another encounter. But none of that happened. The only interesting bit of information was the possibility of these creatures following the blueberry harvest. I suppose if they did get some kind of physical evidence of a sasquatch the news would have come out much earlier than the airing of the show. Maybe they will do a sasquatch attack part III and put those guys out there for 2 months. Oh, well…the mystery remains!

  3. Cashel responds:

    I didn’t expect much from the show and that’s what I got.

    A little disappointing, but Sasquatch is hard to catch, I guess.

    Bummer.

  4. raisinsofwrath responds:

    I’m sorry but it was absolutely ponderous. I don’t even know why they bothered.

    Review, rehash, repeat. Then at the end, guess what? The DNA wasn’t anything after all. One of the worst in a long line of failures for MQ IMO.

    Who ever heard of guys going out specifically to hunt and interact with Bigfoot and then when there’s a slight possibility, they hide in the cabin. Although I don’t believe that rock throwing incident anyway. So, out of 2 hours of footage there was about 5 minutes of possibility. I do realize how tough it is and I know Sassy isn’t standing up there waiting for them but if you are going to produce a docudrama that is not only bad but results in nothing to show, why even bother?

    MQ should either retool and hire new producers/directors/writers or just go away. I’ve been sucked into watching it for the last time.

  5. Sparky1959 responds:

    I have to agree with “Why Bother?” If it was live and you didn’t know what would happen or that nothing would happen you might forgive yourself for waiting in front of a tv set for two hours, (I watched the original episode for the umpteenth time too).

    Since they knew they didn’t have anything why try to make an event out of it?

    There was no news. Hair= bleached human hair. DNA=fungus? Contact=zero, camera traps, pheromones, infra red all negative. It was like Seinfield. A show about nothing.

  6. Sassafrasquatch responds:

    I think the team needs to go back next year when the local food supply is ripe and available. These beings obviously follow the food! You’re not going to find them in an area where they cannot forage. I do think the Episodes title is a bit misleading, it’s more like “Sasquatch Vandalism” rather than attack. If one of these things wanted you dead – you would BE dead. I am also thinking that they hit exactly what they aim for when they toss rocks and sticks.

  7. RyanWinters86 responds:

    I was very disappointed. However, the possibility that Bigfoot migrates due to food sources was very telling and interesting so it wasn’t all a loss.

  8. gooberal responds:

    I was disappointed very much. Of course they weren’t going to find anything major or Loren would have told us. Still, I look forward to watching the show every week and every week the format is the same. There is always some sort of evidence that you spend the entire episode waiting to find out the validity of and it almost always is a flop. This is making the show extremely stagnant. Also, I have the utmost respect for every one of the scientists and researchers appearing in last night’s episode, but do researchers usually only spend 7 days in the field before packing up and moving out? I might as well be watching Destination Truth and their weekend explorations.

  9. Labyrinth_13 responds:

    Like the other posters here have said already, I was also disappointed (and nearly fell asleep). But again, was fascinated by the “following the blueberry harvest” theory.

    This one will probably be covered again, as it should be. Hopefully, we’ll get luckier on the next try.

  10. DavidFullam responds:

    Failed to see it, looks like I didn’t miss too much.

  11. RyanWinters86 responds:

    Gooberal… I agree that the flop at the end usually makes monsterquest stagnant, but At least they show that they are not making up crap for higher ratings… I think MonsterQuest is the most genuine and true show of its kind.

  12. Goodfoot responds:

    I forgot about it. Lucky me again!!

  13. maslo63 responds:

    I was so disappointed that my belief in sasquatch has actually been shaken. I was very excited about the results found in the first episode but this one made me realize that there is nothing going on at Snelgrove Lake. This all sounds like an attempt by the cabin owner to generate interest (and money) in his cabin.

  14. Noncentz responds:

    I’m done with MQ…it never delivers.

  15. SOCALcryptid responds:

    I was very disappointed..

  16. Weezy responds:

    I was disappointed, one of the most boring episodes of the show yet. At least when they go looking for giant squid or fish or snakes they find SOMETHING, in this they found nothing. They had nothing, so the first half hour or so of the show was explaining how they set up camp and that each night in the blind ‘brought nothing’, it was so boring.

    The theory that the Sasquatch was following the berry’s ripening was interesting and it made me wonder why they didn’t just scrap the footage of the cabin and start following that trail of eaten berries. I guess these expeditions really cost a lot and have to end when they end, and that’s what’s disappointing the most to me. I wish they could spend more time out there really looking, but whenever things get interesting (according to the narrator anyway), they always have to leave.

  17. Hatch responds:

    I think it was very important to find out they like blueberries!

    If I was able, I’d camp out there for a summer and try to blend in with the country. You really can’t expect Bigfoot to come on comand. If Bigfoot is a cross between Human and Ape as I think it is, they seem a little more human, although more gentle. We may be smart but as a species we are violent and obviously impatient. It’s no wonder why they avoid us.

  18. cryptidsrus responds:

    I still have faith in MQ. The quest remains…

  19. Uriah responds:

    Monsterquest, let’s not forget, is a TV show. No one should expect any substantial scientific revelation to come of it. This is for entertainment purposes only. However, we must also realize that if the show is attempting to stay true to the scientific method than what is happening is a slowly encroaching move towards the truth. Contrary to common mythology there are very few scientific “breakthroughs” and even what the media calls a “breakthrough” is usually the result of years and years of hard work, failed theories, boring experiments, and data-analysis.

    I think it is important that, as many have already stated, the “Following the Food” theory seems to have originated from their lack of contact here. At least, I’ve not heard that theory before, and it seems to me to be a very rational assumption.

    What I would like to see is a detailed analysis of all documented Bigfoot sightings based on the time of year, the geographical location, and what wild food-sources are available in that area. If we find a correlation between, say, sightings and berry growth, or anything else than that is some real data that can be used to further pin down what this creature is up to.

    I think part of the problem, and I must be honest completely honest here, is that Cryptozoology seems to attract many romantic adventurers, but few scientific methodologists. It seem like every “Cryptozoologist” that Monsterquest interviews is the same guy wearing Walmart Real-Tree camo and an Indiana Jones hat. One of the things that I’ve always enjoyed about Mr. Coleman (among others) is that he tries very hard to retain a scientific air to his study.

  20. alandp responds:

    I agree with Weezy. I’ll keep watching it for stuff like the squid/fish/snake, but these shows focused on true cryptids seem to be largely a waste of time.

    Also, I don’t get the DNA test. Are we now to assume that nothing actually stepped on the nail board in the first place? All that goop they pulled off of it was nothing but fungi?

  21. Delawhere responds:

    Like everyone else, I was quite disappointed with this episode.

    If they go back for another try, I would strongly suggest/hope that the producers contact the locals in the area early on to find out how any sightings have trended (is there a pattern?) or maybe to determine if there’s been a late thaw (which would delay the blueberry season onset).

    I know these things are filmed months in advance but it seemed like a colossal waste of resources and energy to spend on the one hot spot with the intent of capturing something – and then to pull up stakes and run to last known sighting area.

    I was impressed by the gear they brought out but the payoff to the buildup was a letdown.

  22. helgarde responds:

    I fell asleep during this episode.

    I have a lot of respect for Jeff Meldrum and the other scientists involved in this show, but the producers and directors need to realize that if the want people to watch their show, they need to actually have something worth putting out an episode.

    The DNA test results did not surprise me at all. The tissue sample was really, REALLY old, fer crissakes! DNA degrades over time. The fungus and bacteria found in it tells me that the primary tissue sample was not only contaminated by environmental microbes which not only live in the environment, but probably eat dead tissue. So, it tells me that there was probably a tissue at one time, but it was likely consumed in part or whole over time by microbes which break down dead flesh.

  23. Loren Coleman responds:

    I am hopeful for next season, as I know all of your feedback is being listened to, heard, read, considered, and changes are being incorporated during Season III. Don’t forget, this is a very popular program, and it will serve us all well to hope for its continued evolution and success.

    Remember that one of the watchwords of cryptozoology is “patience,” as well as “passion.”

    (Disclaimer: I was on a flight back from Colorado and did not see the program last night.)

  24. one4show responds:

    It was a disappointment. I think I just had set the bar high after the first sasquatch attack. But I do think that the producers and program directors should take better consideration on the time of year they go on their missions. It seems that there have been several episodes lately where they went during the wrong time of year. For instance this episode and also the giant squid 2 episode where they went at a totally different time of year all together. You would thing that when looking for in most cases what seem to be migratory animals they would take into consideration the time of year. Especially with the Giant Squid episode where they actually found great evidence on their first trip. So for a follow up trip they should have returned at the exact same time. The first Giant Squid Found episode is by far by favorite and the original sasquatch attacks a close second

  25. greywolf responds:

    I watched the program! I thought the team that was organized was the proper group for expertise. I was not impressed when after each commercial break they had to rehash the line about the cabin under attack. I would have looked for a new point to start each segment. Yes I would think that an animal that size would follow the food I think that most high school biology student could figure that out. Someday we will find the answer!

  26. mystery_man responds:

    Uriah- I couldn’t have said it any better myself. Scientific research takes patience and it can take years to get results. Even then, if it is legitimate work, it will go through the process of being published and peer reviewed, upon which it will be checked and checked again by other researches which can be a slow and laborious process. And it is absolutely correct that the “breakthroughs” publicized in the media are the end results of a lot of hard, sometimes unglamorous work.

    The vast majority of any serious research does not happen over night and I think anyone who expects that a show like this can set up shop for seven days and come up with some revelation out of the blue is likely going to be disappointed (although I suppose if a sasquatch had come crashing into camp posing for photos, we would get faster results). It took years of diligent field work to properly document some new species. Like Loren said, these things require patience and passion, and that goes not only for cryptozoology, but for any honest scientific pursuit. Any real pursuit for the truth is about coming to a careful, gradual understanding about our natural world, not any sort of instant gratification. If that is what one is after, the science is probably not a good field for that person.

    I wouldn’t say the situation here is a total loss in this sense. Already, there are important ideas being considered here, such as the idea that sasquatch might be following the blueberries. This is how science often works, piece by piece, with new information that is assimilated, added to the body of data, and studied in conjunction with the other evidence to come to new hypotheses.

    Patience and passion. Two key components of science.

  27. Exactly Squatch responds:

    MonsterQuest was on my must-see list until last night. I understand the difficulties involved with a series like MQ, but when they title it “Sasquatch Attack II” – you’ll have to pardon me for expecting a little more than a second hand report of a blueberry eating Sasquatch.

    If others found it worth their time, that’s wonderful… however, I’m left wanting that hour of my life back.

  28. Cryptonut responds:

    With MQ you get your hopes up that the reason that there is a show is that something factual or new is going to be produced and often times you are disappointed. I have to say though, is that you have to take it for what it’s worth. I think it is great that a tv show and a producer are in the business of showing this kind of content on TV, but if there was anything huge to come out of their expeditions/research it would have to hit the press before the show is produced, so I know going into it that there will be nothing earth shattering. I would guess that this is most common disappointment that people feel.

    I think for many of us that are really hoping to see the big guy come out of the shadows and into mainstream scientific reality there will be disappointment until that day comes. Until then any little nuggets that come out on the show help to keep the hope alive.

    I do think they are on to something at Snelgrove and surrounding areas. I like the potential tie-in with the feeding habits. I hope they are able to use this information in an upcoming segment to get one step closer to finding the big guy…

  29. KashaPaw responds:

    As interesting as MQ can be for people not ‘into’ Cryptozoology, it’s pretty damn useless in the ‘proof’ department.

    This episode was no exception.

    “Okay, we’re looking for a Bigfoot, totally prepared guys, seriously-OHGODWHATWASTHATHIDEINTHECABIN!!”?

    Not. Logical.

  30. A. L. Hinton responds:

    Here’s my idea: Two guys from Georgia, duct tape, lip stick, romantic mood music/ whoop calls, & gorilla pee. I also love when the scientist jumps out of the boat, it’s already tied to shore. Too much posing. Why was it when the bloody screws, which were in a grid pattern, became a footprint-shape? Not objective. I hope, & I know, the show will have great subjects, & only get better. It’s called “Monster Quest”, not “Monster Taxidermist”, so we shouldn’t expect too much.

  31. Hawkeye responds:

    I guess I just don’t understand why they (MQ) don’t set up the camera traps for longer than when their team is there. They know it is an active site and I’m sure they have the $ to leave a few camera traps there during spring/summer/fall and have someone collect and replace the chips in the cameras every so often. Then they would have a better chance of getting their pic.

    Also I thought they should have left everything normal and not done the blind. I think that BF is drawn by the activity not lack there of.

  32. korollocke responds:

    The watch words for cyrptozoology are blind faith and unrewarded eternal hope. No one or anything really delivers the goods do they, no lake/sea monsters, bigfoots, nothing…. I’ll settle for a giant rabbit at this point.

  33. mfs responds:

    John Q. Public seems to have more “luck” in running into these creatures as experienced by the mother and daughter in Sas Attack II than the investigating team. Yes it was disappointing but I whole-heartedly agree with Loren and mystery_man that that this kind of work if you didn’t by now can be very tedious,
    exhaustive and frustrating. We sit back and watch it on tv from the comforts of our homes with high expectations of a sensational find or utter discontent because it didn’t happen. I will always applaud and admire those cryptozoologists, researchers, scientists and laypersons who continue the long, arduous and difficult task of finding “them”. And with patience and sheer perseverence and maybe,just maybe, the day we’ve all been waiting for will happen.

  34. PeterOtoole responds:

    The head honchos do not seriously believe they might find Sasquatch. They regard this as a lucrative ball and cup game with a gaggle of idiots. It’s an abusive relationship. Wake up.

    Stop scrutinizing this cartoon and get together, join forces, and do it yourself if you really think he’s out there. If everyone that visits this site pooled their resources, we’d have a hundred times the chance of success.

    If we took advantage of the odds and technology, and invested in a grid of video camera traps throughout prime habit (not safari tours like the BFRO), the jig would finally be up one way or the other.

    Patterson and Gimlin didn’t get the worlds greatest evidence by sitting on a couch. I say lets stop complaining, stop watching terrible TV shows, and do this.

    Bigfoot Search Collective, who’s with me?

  35. PeterOtoole responds:

    I apologize that this could be seen as off topic, but I think it is a logical progression:

    I also believe we must have a breakthrough in the camouflage of camera traps. This is the sort of thing a community of people could work on together and really take a leap forward.

    Unfortunately, shows like MQ will always spend more money on things like animated monster transitions. This will not change. Our priorities are completely different. Just look at their name. There are no such things as Monsters. Monsters are inventions meant to scare and thrill us. They are on a quest to entertain.

    I say again, Bigfoot Search Collective, who’s with me? We could even make documentaries to enlighten the masses about our sincere efforts to document this animal. That’s a documentary, not a ‘show.’

  36. raisinsofwrath responds:

    With all due respect to the other posters I must point out that Bigfoot migration to follow food sources is not something new. It’s been speculated and reported for many years. Although this is the first time “blueberries” have been pinpointed, I see no great revelation.

  37. Ole Bub responds:

    Good morning Cryptomundians…

    I agree for the most part…a classic case of over promise and under deliver…with too much sensationalism and dramatic license…JMHO

    I was pleased to see genuine scientists participating in what initially appeared to be a well planned investigation, looking for a rogue male. Perhaps in the future they will be less invasive and make their presence more interesting, with a protracted stay during prime blueberry season.

    Agreed Loren…patience is key, they might consider leaving the pherries, call blasting, IR cameras, DNA darts and low level camera traps home in the future…the big folks are not stupid.

    Doug…we appreciate your efforts and the success of the MQ series, please do not “dumb” the series down. Squatch is the main attraction…they are not monsters…please consider a stand alone series…”Sasquatch Quest”…JMHO

  38. Loren Coleman responds:

    Realistically, while a new idea for a series might sound wonderful and a solution to a specific criticism or fine point you dislike, a new series takes a long, long time in development and attempts to get funded, produced, and birthed.

    Each new season of MQ will take into account “lessons learned” and evolve, as mentioned above. However, to think that just because something is suggested to fine tune the current model – which is very popular outside of the cz community, please note – or that a new program will pop up to only deal with Bigfoot – is unrealistic.

    I would rather support and modify than burn to the ground or act as if something that won’t be funded in the near future will solve all the complaints.

    Think about it folks, aren’t you just happy that you even have MonsterQuest on television to critique?

  39. Unknown Primate responds:

    You’re right, Loren. I’ll watch no matter what.

  40. maslo63 responds:

    Peter is right, if anyone actually took the search for sasquatch seriously it would have been found, if it exists.
    As for MQ not delivering, I’ll admit it is discouraging but lets consider that these people are out here looking for animals that in all likely hood don’t even exist (yes, I said it) and if any of these cryptids do exist they haven’t been discovered yet for a reason (they’re sneaky). I honestly never expect MQ to deliver much, if the folks on the show did find something we would likely know about it before the program aired. That said, its still the best cryptozoology show around and I’ll continue to devote an hour out of each week to watch it.

  41. MikeGmann responds:

    Really the overall episode was a disappointment but like many of you all have already stated, the theory that guesses maybe sasquatch could in fact be following the patches of ripened blueberries is a theory that should be tested in a third follow up episode. MonsterQuest should arrive at Snelgrove when the blueberry bushes in the area are producing ripened berries and then extensive camera and surveillance technology should be installed near and around the patches of blueberry bushes in order to test this theory. But if MonsterQuest really wanted to capture a real sasquatch, they should spend at least a year at Snelgrove lake in order to really perform the extensive research that should be performed.

  42. Exactly Squatch responds:

    I am very happy MonsterQuest has been a ratings success and I sincerely hope it remains on the air for many seasons to come. What I am not happy about is the unwarranted hype they generate about their upcoming shows. Seriously, the last episode was called “Sasquatch Attack II.” Imagine JAWS II with no shark. Just Brody and the kids talking about the previous attacks seen in the original JAWS with a few flashbacks thrown in – then, boom, end credits. I think it’d be reasonable to assume you’d be a little more than ticked off.

    My expectations were high because the producers of MonsterQuest made them that way. They didn’t deliver and I feel, in a sense, betrayed. I sincerely hope they take all of our comments to heart. I’d hate for Destination Truth to be our *only* option (no offense, Josh!).

  43. swnoel responds:

    Well folks, I watch MQ and enjoy watching it for it’s entertainment value.

    I certainly don’t expect anything else but entertainment.

    While many of the researchers do the same thing over and over, with absolutely no results, you’d think someone would come up with a novel idea, such as just go camping like all the ones that had so called encounters.

    Call blasting, tree knocking, stink chips, gorilla urine, tramping around disturbing and stinking up the whole area doesn’t seem to be working, LOL, but they keep on trying!

    It almost makes you believe they know what they’re doing.

    I also believe that leaving 4 Reconyx RC60 HO cameras at the cabin site would eventually catch the culprit, but then again that doesn’t make for good TV does it?

  44. Pyrofanity responds:

    why does it always seem that when the cryptozologists find ‘evidence’ they always fail to have put a trail camera near the location. They claimed that they had a bigfoot step on a screw board. It seems only logical that they would put a camera trap by it if they expected a bigfoot to step on it. These logical conclusions come to me a lot whenever I watch shows similar to MQ. Its like they never have the right equipment for the situation they are in. They see shadows but don’t have thermal cameras. They set evidence traps but put no cameras nearby. I’m not sure if its just me, but I always feel that they investigators do things very illogical in these shows and I always find myself saying what they should be doing during the shows. I feel like they should get evidence all of the time but don’t do things right.

  45. Rael responds:

    I don’t think it would be a good idea to make a new series, as the show could go off and then possibly looked upon as a failed format by the bean counters at the history channel, leaving us with nothing that so much as mentions cryptids. That said, the show is in desperate need of a retooling, nearly every episode proceeds and ends along the same tired formula. The thing that bothers me the most are the nonstop recaps of everything that happened before the commercial break all the way back to the beginning of the show, I dunno if its because they just don’t have enough footage or they think everyone that watches has Alzheimer’s, but it seems like I’m watching more recap than show. The show to me is just entertainment, but it isn’t really entertaining anymore, just frustrating.

    As far as actually catching anything, I think if anyone does, it will be by someone who either lives in the area of the cryptid or goes there on a near daily basis, not a guy with 62 cameras in a tiny area that goes out for 7 days.

    I know I’m new here, but as far as the Bigfoot Search Collective thingie, sign me up!

  46. PeterOtoole responds:

    Loren,

    Yes, MQ may entertain, but does it help or harm Cryptozoology? It may be popular outside of CZ circles, but why should that matter? We’re here to try to find hidden animals.

    I believe that the very foundation of the show lies in indifference to the merit of Cryptozoology. Here is my reasoning: Lets say I am in charge of producing a new TV show. If I actually take serious (for instance) the possibility that unknown hominids are walking around out in the woods, I’m going to make it my goal to scour the lands with every resource I have until I dig up some evidence, because when I have it, my ratings are going to rival the moon landing. I think I could probably find the money to put a guy in the woods for more than seven days. Admit it, they do the bare minimum.

    If however I regard the whole thing as a bunch of hogwash, I would create MQ in all its glory, making the most dollars possible with the least investment.

    I am not charging the MQ bosses with objectivity, I’m charging them with exploitation of Cryptozoology.

    Yes, I would totally like to burn MQ to the ground if that would mean that the people who are really curious would get their information from wikipedia or other reasonably sound sources. Think of all the intelligent people who are actually repelled by shows like MQ…It’s as much an anti-advertisement for CZ as it is an advertisement.

    Well, spoke my piece.

  47. Loren Coleman responds:

    Let me respond to selected parts penned above.

    PT writes: “Yes, MQ may entertain, but does it help or harm Cryptozoology? It may be popular outside of CZ circles, but why should that matter? We’re here to try to find hidden animals.”

    I’ve mentioned often, there is no modern funding via government sources, zoological societies, academia, or museums for the active searching or researching of cryptids, as there was during Victorian days. While some funding comes from on-going conservation efforts, the popularizing of cryptozoology has resulted in funding via documentary filmmakers and television production companies to support active searching in the field. While we may not be exactly happy with the time-limited nature of this effort to date, you have to start somewhere, to reinforce the eventual further, future funding.

    PT: “I believe that the very foundation of the show lies in indifference to the merit of Cryptozoology.”

    I find this unfortunate and merely reflective of a different point of view or objective to how this comment maker would conduct the searching via this show. The executive producer of MQ, while obviously wishing to make money and produce an entertaining series, does have rather high standards for his production values and educational content for his programming. All one has to do is look at the documentary that is the virtual and actual father of the “MonsterQuest” series, i.e. Sasquatch: Legend Meets Science.

    PT: “I am not charging the MQ bosses with objectivity, I’m charging them with exploitation of Cryptozoology.”

    Is ESPN exploiting baseball because they have a “Baseball Tonight” program vs producing another version of “This Week In Baseball”? I really find a heavy dose of bias being ditched out in the above sentence from PT.

    PT: “Yes, I would totally like to burn MQ to the ground if that would mean that the people who are really curious would get their information from wikipedia or other reasonably sound sources.”

    This has got to be a joke but reflective of the Internet mentality alive and well today. Wikipedia is not a “reasonably sound source.” In a perfect world, I would like everyone reading books, using libraries, going to universities, and referencing “reasonably sound sources.” However, television is a major source of education for the vast majority of people in the technologically-aware world, and even compared to “In Search Of” and “That’s Incredible” – two early sources of cryptozoological knowledge on television – “MonsterQuest” is like watching an Australopithecus evolve into Homo sapiens, right before our eyes. Patience, please, for the future flowering of MQ as it continues. In it’s absence, it will not be replaced quickly by anything “better,” for longterm funding of field expeditions do not happen overnight because we hope they will occur.

    Burn MonsterQuest?

    The recommendation of PT is an example of “Ben Tre logic.” It was at the provincial capital of Ben Tre during the Vietnam War where an unnamed U.S. Air Force Major gave Associated Press correspondent Peter Arnett the most famous quote of the war. Discussing Ben Tre on February 7, 1968, Arnett wrote: “‘it became necessary to destroy the town to save it,’ a U.S. major says.”

    Think about it. Is that what people want?

  48. norman-uk responds:

    Well i think its great entertainment and i am looking forward to the next episodes here. I hope the programme will stumble on something new or at least a promise of something new! But sceptically see art and device in its every almost every move. Somewhat Blaire Witch-ish! Every week there has to be new a thrill folks, a near miss, even if someone has to shake the bushes with a bit of string. But there are near misses and there is also a genuine if rushed effort to get the goods! May the team long continue, TV would be duller without them.

    Unfortunately they do rather feed the sceptical viewpoint with some of their antics which does not help those who would like the truth brought out and backing to do so.

    I also admire the physical effort and hardship, if seeing is believing, the team seem to be making, no sleep, air travel etc etc.

    If I remember correctly DNA from the (appalling) screw snare was first of all found to be absent by the (sceptical) NY lab and then elsewhere (after a zink? contaminant was removed) found to be human with a difference. This begins to look more like what would be expected from sasquatch given the apparently small difference between, eg, a bonobo and a human.

    I wonder if in testing for DNA a trick is being missed in that labs are not taking advantage of the potential of hair samples to provide an uncontaminated and undegraded sample of DNA from within its interior. Something seems to be going amiss with the search for DNA, should it be that hard to find sasquatch hair and establish some uniqueness? There is the interesting case of the (Orang Pendek?) sample, analysed by prof Brian Sykes-Seven Daughters of Eve-found to be unique but apparently going no further ?

  49. PeterOtoole responds:

    Yes, my comments are probably all pretty biased, but I think it’s the flip side of the coin to the ‘any exposure is good exposure’ philosophy (my words). If that is the only way these projects get funded, I can see your point but I think it’s kind of like building casinos to fund schools. We should endeavor to the utmost to eliminate the situation.

    I used the burning analogy because you mentioned it above:

    “I would rather support and modify than burn to the ground or act as if something that won’t be funded in the near future will solve all the complaints.”

    That’s not some kind of internet rage or fatalist attitude. I used your words in place of “I want an honest show.”

    I just believe that MQ is so far from good that you should support it indirectly by challenging its existence. If the History Channel saw you throw down the gauntlet and champion my “people’s collective” idea (for instance), it would be like watching the Russians build Sputnik. This is also why 3rd party candidates run, to push the other two parties forward by attempting to replace them.

    What if you put all your energy into something like that? How many negative responses are there on this page to MQ? That’s will, that’s energy! Am I the one being cynical? Why do you believe there is no hope for funding of proper documentaries any time soon? Past experience? I thought you were an Obama supporter…Yes We Can!

    As for Wikipedia, I’m talking about the first level of exposure, not the ultimate source of knowledge. As far as first responders go, I believe Wikipedia is to MQ as Doctor Hibbert is to Doctor Nick. There’s proof that I do watch some TV.

    But I do admit, I am highly critical, but I just want an honest show. Dishonesty bleeds into everything about MQ, the ominous narrator, the wording, the scowling monster face, the name. That’s my point–it’s pure showmanship, but it’s about something that I think is real, so I find it offensive. Got to be loud about these feelings, not bottle them up. The emperor has no clothes.

  50. hudgeliberal responds:

    Well, I was not as disgusted as some of you seem to be.

    First of all, any of us who know anything about our hairy friends know that 99 percent of the time in the field results in nothing (unless you are one of those “lucky” people who seem to see them everytime you venture out). I wonder,would you rather they “fake” some evidence just for the sake of entertainment?

    I know many complained about them hyping shows and such, I just want the truth. Just seeing people out looking with modern equipment is good enough for me. Then again, I may just be a sasquatch fanatic. I never tire of watching, reading or learning about squatch. I am glad the show is fairly honest and doesn’t try to fake evidence just for the sake of entertainment. We have had enough of that in the bigfoot community.

    I take MonsterQuest for what it is, an entertaining show about cryptids. I wish it was Squatch 24/7/365 but that’s just me. The show didn’t have groundbreaking news but I thought it was interesting enough to entertain me for an hour. I am just thankful that we have a few shows about squatch, for years we had nothing. Peace.

  51. yetispaghetti235 responds:

    the episode stunk. it had no purpose the whole entire season was a waste to watch with my own eyes. They couldn’t find anything at all besides at the end the recent sighting. I know it is TV, but they could of planned a little bit ahead by researching the season and he timing of going there because higher chances of being there if it is the same week/month.
    the creature could be anywhere what you have is have a a larger scale search. they will never find anything on tv maybe you they should go in for a couple of weeks next time and they could get more evidence because the cryptids may be scared and not come on the the couple days the crew is there.

    Boo on Monsterquest

  52. LynxKano responds:

    I bet they wish they had a camera trap at or near the front door of the cabin when Chuck put that nail board …

  53. youcantryreachingme responds:

    Uriah wrote: “What I would like to see is a detailed analysis of all documented Bigfoot sightings based on the time of year, the geographical location, and what wild food-sources are available in that area.”

    Good point. Is there no such published paper? One published paper in Australia summarises 203 sightings of Tasmanian tigers – in Western Australia!

    mystery_man, backing up Uriah, wrote “The vast majority of any serious research does not happen over night and I think anyone who expects that a show like this can set up shop for seven days and come up with some revelation out of the blue is likely going to be disappointed”

    Hit the nail on the head. It’s a shame that’s the way it is, but that’s the way it is.

  54. eaglejm responds:

    I’ve been catching up on all of the bigfoot episodes and have noticed a pattern. They appear to be marginally better equipped to search for any version of bigfoot than a family of farmboys with a tractor and a lantern. If they spent a quarter of the show’s ad revenue on searching they might actually have something to show people. Do not film 3 guys with a heliocopter that can fly for 10 mins and call that an “expedition”. The amount of terrain covered in any of their episodes is a few city blocks at best. Install trail cameras near sources of water in a large region and send people to check on them every few months. The show lacks content so they have to repeat themselves about 10 times the same scenes, the same quotes, the same intros, the same wolf’s eyeball video intro, just a filler. Overall the show is a laughable attempt at discovery. The Rods episode should not have even aired, 10 seconds on wikipedia answers that “mystery”. I expected more out of the History Channel…..

  55. XFiler responds:

    I saw it and, YES, I was disappointed. BUT…..Monster Quest consistently disappoints. They certainly have a knack for drawing you in, only to produce nothing in conclusion. It’s always the same scenario….the explorer/scientist against the “expert analysis”….experts who fear for their careers/reputation were they to divulge any results NOT explained by conventional science. I don’t know who is more foolish, the explorer/scientist in his trust of his own findings or me, for continuing to watch MQ…..yet I do.



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