Breaking News on Wisconsin Cryptid
Posted by: Loren Coleman on November 12th, 2006
Linda Godfrey writes: “Hi, breaking news in that a second witness has contacted Ch.12 TV in Milwaukee and said that he will go on camera to tell about his sighting of what he claims is the same creature two years ago, not far from where Mr. Krueger saw it. The man is a painting contractor, and did see the lower part of the animal. It was bipedal. That’s all I know at the moment.”
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Loren Coleman is one of the world’s leading cryptozoologists, some say “the” leading living cryptozoologist. Certainly, he is acknowledged as the current living American researcher and writer who has most popularized cryptozoology in the late 20th and early 21st centuries.
Starting his fieldwork and investigations in 1960, after traveling and trekking extensively in pursuit of cryptozoological mysteries, Coleman began writing to share his experiences in 1969. An honorary member of Ivan T. Sanderson’s Society for the Investigation of the Unexplained in the 1970s, Coleman has been bestowed with similar honorary memberships of the North Idaho College Cryptozoology Club in 1983, and in subsequent years, that of the British Columbia Scientific Cryptozoology Club, CryptoSafari International, and other international organizations. He was also a Life Member and Benefactor of the International Society of Cryptozoology (now-defunct).
Loren Coleman’s daily blog, as a member of the Cryptomundo Team, served as an ongoing avenue of communication for the ever-growing body of cryptozoo news from 2005 through 2013. He returned as an infrequent contributor beginning Halloween week of 2015.
Coleman is the founder in 2003, and current director of the International Cryptozoology Museum in Portland, Maine.
Great, maybe it’s territorial. Maybe the dead deer on a truck with video cameras trained on it would work after all! I’ve got a feeling we may be close to some solid proof here!
So maybe it was a bigfoot after all and the other guy didn’t admit to it so as to not be taken for a nutjob. Possibly he backed off his story a little after it garnered so much attention. It’s a shame that anyone reporting things out of the ordinary has to worry about being labeled and ridiculed. A bear or dog is not bipedal, so an unknown bipedal creature could not be anything other than a sasquatch, could it?
Suuure it could ~ WolfMan, Chupas, Mothman, escaped ape or chimp ~ LOTS of possibilities out there!
Mr. Krueger was adamant that the creature was not a bigfoot and has not changed or altered his story as far as I have seen.
I am very curious about what others think this might be.
We have a description of a wolflike head on a seven foot tall bipedal creature. Still need a description of the “paws”.
Does this fall into a list of previously known cryptids?
I’d like to explain that this information was given to me by Steve Krueger, and was relayed to him by the Ch. 12 anchorman who is doing the report. The anchor had called Krueger to try to persuade him to also appear on camera, but Krueger is still hesitant. He was, however, very glad to know someone else had also seen it. He does not know the identity of the new witness. I’ve watched most of the evening news show without mention of the incident, so they must be still working on it and hoping Krueger will yet agree to appear on camera. Krueger is reluctant mostly because he is a contractor with the state’s department of transportation, and doesn’t want his employment to be affected. I have some messages in to the news anchor, and hope to learn more soon. I hate to get too excited until I hear the second person’s actual story and description.
– Linda Godfrey
Interesting turn of events. I’m curious about the fact that Mr. Krueger is also glad someone else has seen it and feels he does not want to jeapardize his employment. It seems very much to me that he doesn’t really think he saw just a bear. As a lot of posters here have said, he might be trying to protect his reputation by not wanting to go out on a limb and say it was a Bigfoot. There have been some interesting past comments about how ordinary people will see something out of the ordinary and file it away as something mundane, no matter how odd what they saw may be. I wonder if this is what is going on here? And is this new witness just jumping on the bandwagon of what happened or is it legit? Won’t know until more details are forthcoming, but I tell you, I really am looking forward to finding out just what it is that is going on!
This story is quickly heading towards becoming the most widely publicized press yet on the so-called dog-faced sasquatch, Beast of Bray Road, wolfman, etc. I think folks outside of the Wisconsin and Michigan areas are not quite so familiar with this regional variant which, to judge by other recent reports, seems to be expanding its range. I must confess that I, too, am anxious to learn if the lower limb morphology was adequately seen by the witnesses so as to suggest either canid or hominoid.
A bear is a possibility. But there are some problems with that theory.
– If it was a bear you would think it would be pretty easy to recognize.
– This would be a pretty bold thing for a bear to do – actually approaching a running, lighted vehicle and climbing onto or into the bed to grab a carcass. Of course it would be a bold thing for any wild animal to do.
– One wonders whether a bear would have the dexterity to do this as quickly as it was reported to occur. It would have to clamber or jump up into the bed, get a good grip on the carcass with its jaws, and then clamber out. This sounds somewhat different from what happened.
It just sounds a little funny for a bear to do something like this. It’s possible, bears in the national parks break into cars all the time. But the way this occurred does sort of suggest a highly intelligent, very dexterous animal.
hey loren & linda godfrey, thanks for the update breaking news article about the wisconsin sasquatch or cryptid. I hope researchers put cams in wisconsin forests where these encounters are taking place.
Very interesting story. Doesn’t Southeastern Wisconsin have a legendary creature that is more like a Werewolf? I once saw a show I believe it was on the Travel Channel and many locals reported a werewolf like creature on the side of the road after roadkill. This was suppose to be in Jefferson County or some county outside the Milwaukee Metro. Also, I have heard reports of strange things near the Kettle Moraine areas. How far is Holy Hill from there? Lots of UFO activity near Bigfoot sometimes and also usually near water.
Well, while I pull for a bigfoot-style creature to be out there, I swear this doesn’t sound like one to me. I’ve never commented here before, but I recently moved to Michigan from Georgia, and I am becoming somewhat familiar myself with the “Beast of Bray Road.” This thing in Mr. Krueger’s report– its color, the pointy “wolf like”-but-not-quite-as-pointy ears, the “paws,” the speed and agility– sounds like a “werewolf,” or whatever “real” animal out there passes for what we imagine as that creature. Honestly the more I look into this stuff, the scarier it becomes. Something is out there, and it seems potentially much more fearsome than the average sasquatch story.
Thing is, while I had never heard of the Beast of Bray Road until moving to Michigan and flipping through “Hunting the American Werewolf” at a Halloween display in Barnes & Noble, I have even more intimate knowledge in a way. Back in Georgia, down in the South Georgia woods in fact, I saw a wolf that probably shouldn’t have been in the wild there at all. It scared the hell out of two of my friends and myself. Just a few minutes later, after briefly running for our lives, one of the friends and myself saw at the same time a “wolf” again, but this time it was not a regular wolf on all fours but was walking upright, like a man and– I swear– had changed, becoming physically something that looked closer to human than what we had seen before. Still it had the ears, a sort of snout, a tail and plenty of fur that in both sightings was, in this case, white; but this bipedal beast stalked off in a frame muscular and broad across the chest like a man. Again, I’m not making this up, and two completely sober people saw this thing simultaneously.
It turns out another friend of mine, independent of this incident, but in the same area, also saw what he described as a white wolf that actually ran at him. Fortunately he lept into his truck and sped off. Still, he swears by what he saw too, and was even more freaked out when my friend and I related our sightings.
Anyway, I’ve told a few close friends about this before. I don’t know what it is. I’m not even sure whether, as some people have suggested, that these creatures sometimes might be, at least in part, “thought forms” or some other strange types of entities. Maybe some are, but it seems to me more and more that some are, at least in part, plenty physical enough to be very worrisome as well. Something that can grab a full deer carcass out of the back of a pickup truck is not just a thought passing through.
The only thing this guy said about a bear was “It was larger than one”.
Bears are pretty clumsy and there is no way a bear has the speed to climb in and pull out a deer carcass. That is a lot of dead weight to grab so swiftly. I hope this is not a creature similar to the Beast of Bray road.
There is a good chance this is not your laid back, even tempered Bigfoot.
After viewing the ABC-TV national news spot Sunday night, the Holly Hill, Wisc description fits more of a Bigfoot or Sasquatch, than any bear, barring a grizzly.
In June, 1973 in southern Carroll Co, Maryland, state & local police had multiple similar reports from dozens of credible observers, one was an astrophysicist. Being “on-call” to Md State Police for “strange phenomena events” and with help of several law enforcement agencies, a national guard unit & volunteer firefighters, we conducted a 12 hour search supported by 500+ men covering 25-sq. miles of woods. Huge 14″ tracks were found & casted. We still have our set. Others went to Wash. State Univ. Prof. Grover Krantz & Rene Dahinden in British Columbia. Last reports of Carroll Co Bigfoot had it moving west towards the Allegheny Mountains. We to were ridiculed, but just ignored the ignorant skeptics.
i loved the so called experts they put on tv last night.
here in AZ the did a story in this and tied it in to the Apache res bigfoot.
anyways they showed the so called experts stating no animal would approach the running truck with a man in it especially a bear or other large animal.
i laughed because bears will go anywhere for an easy meal. so will any other animal especially if they were coming after it when he took it from them.
look at the big cats in Africa. they may fear man, as do other animals, but once that man is in a vehicle he is no longer a man to fear or hunt but something that they dont see as a threat.
bottom line boys and girls man on two feet is either a meal or a danger. man in vehicle is neither. in a truck a man is a curiosity and not a man.
i just saw a video clip on cnn.com about this sighting.
they intervewed some hunters from the area and they were pretty skeptical and one of them said the guy was probally drinking at 1am when this happened….lol
Awesome, I live in Wisconsin! Northern part, though. I’m surprised it was seen in the south, the north is much more forested, that’s where everyone goes hunting.
Oh yeah! The wolfman, it’s what it sounds like to me. An old folk legend up here in Northern Michigan.
The responses I get from other people I talk to about this, who have similat crypto interests as myself is one of ridicule: “Yeah, a Scoobey-Do werewolf! Hahahaha!”
I find it amazing that some people are as myopic when dealing with cryptozoology as anything else. Why not a werewolf, or something cryptid that has been called that because it IS unknown to science.
Oh, well, opinions being similar to other things and all that…
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In the BFRO database there is only one sighting from Carroll County from 1981. I don’t see anything about the events of 1973. Maybe if you alerted them they could write it up – it would be very helpful for the sake of their database and future research.
From what was reported in an earlier thread, the animal in question did NOT jump onto or into the bed of the truck. The gate had been left down and it simply reached its paw in and he took off. So the animal could have pulled it out on its own or the motion of the truck peeling out could have spilled the deer onto the road where the animal reclaimed it and drug if off into the brush.
I’ve heard the term Timberbear thrown around. I’ve tried to google the term but I’m not finding anything. Is there anyone with a picture of this animal or a description from a zoological source or is it simply a ‘made up’ animal. If there is such a bear and its head does resemble a wolf this MAY explain some of the sightings.
Well there seem to be many trying hard to bend this to be a bigfoot report dispite the witness saying he never said it was bigfoot. But i wont say more as i’ll only get my comments removed.
A muzzle, eh?
An ape with a prothagnous (sp?) muzzle?
Arctodus simus? – the long-legged ‘short-faced bear” that once roamed the northern parts of this continent before becoming extinct, and from the skeleton, appears more capable of bipedal locomotion than the Asian black bear, which can walk on two legs for up to a quarter of a mile?
Certainly doesn’t sound like either a PNW sasquatch, a plains chi-yen tanka (sp?), a skunk ape or the napes of the NE.