Mt. St. Helens Bigfoot Removal: National Guardsman Says It is True
Posted by: Loren Coleman on September 17th, 2012
“Did the military or the government of the United States of America remove dead Bigfoot bodies from the mountainside of Mt. St. Helens, after the volcanic explosion?”
So began an interview of mine a couple years ago.
True/Slant columnist Scott Bowen conducted an extensive interview exploring the topic of government coverups, dead Bigfoot, and cryptozoology, during the last week of May 2010. The published wide-ranging results are in:
Interview: Cryptozoologist Loren Coleman, part 1
One snippet can be shared about the above question:
“Really, the military could care less. They’re not looking for Bigfoot — they’re looking for spies, terrorists, even illegal immigrants. It’s not that the government and military services are stupid – it’s that they have only so much brain power and memory, both technically and legally. That is closer to the truth. It’s not an overt cover-up,” said Coleman. It “is what happens in bureaucracies and government. It’s not a cover up — there are simply disconnects.”
Many other issues were covered.
Interview: Cryptozoologist Loren Coleman, part 2
Now, a National Guardsman has come forth saying it really happened. Okay, yeah right. For more, read here.
About Loren Coleman
Loren Coleman is one of the world’s leading cryptozoologists, some say “the” leading living cryptozoologist. Certainly, he is acknowledged as the current living American researcher and writer who has most popularized cryptozoology in the late 20th and early 21st centuries.
Starting his fieldwork and investigations in 1960, after traveling and trekking extensively in pursuit of cryptozoological mysteries, Coleman began writing to share his experiences in 1969. An honorary member of Ivan T. Sanderson’s Society for the Investigation of the Unexplained in the 1970s, Coleman has been bestowed with similar honorary memberships of the North Idaho College Cryptozoology Club in 1983, and in subsequent years, that of the British Columbia Scientific Cryptozoology Club, CryptoSafari International, and other international organizations. He was also a Life Member and Benefactor of the International Society of Cryptozoology (now-defunct).
Loren Coleman’s daily blog, as a member of the Cryptomundo Team, served as an ongoing avenue of communication for the ever-growing body of cryptozoo news from 2005 through 2013. He returned as an infrequent contributor beginning Halloween week of 2015.
Coleman is the founder in 2003, and current director of the International Cryptozoology Museum in Portland, Maine.
I could see why the government would not expose what they know about sasquatch to the public: they don’t want to humiliate Western science. Plus, they wouldn’t want to waste their breath talking about a subject that’s not important to them.
No, Loren, the military could NOT care less! 😉
Oh come on.
Wait….the Bigfoot “spoke” with them!?!
Pass…..
I just want me some a them Justin Smeja Sierra Kills Steaks.
Actually in this case, you could have gotten them cooked!
DWA,
Well done, no doubt.
The story is self-contradictory.
Let me get this straight: The government cares enough about Bigfoots to dispatch secret personnel to drive them around after the volcano, learn their language(?!), bandage up their burns, and allow them to live in secrecy; but the government doesn’t care enough about them to set aside any designated habitat, or push to have them acknowledged as a species?
And if all the super-secret guys with guns were standing around, why recruit these four regular guys to drive around with the creatures?
I know that the government isn’t known for making much sense, but this is just too much of a stretch.
PS: And I don’t think a Bigfoot would fit into any Jeep. I’m just 6′ tall and can barely fit into one.
It’s funny – this story has the same basic structure as the “Mermaids: The Body Found”.
Ecological disaster (in this case volcano instead of Naval sonar testing) and then the military swoops in and removes the bodies.
I haven’t seen a version of this one where the Bigfoot (Bigfeet?) were captured alive and kept in an artificial environment “Ice Man” style.
Have not even read the story yet and I know its B.S.
Well, I shouldn’t tell you guys this, but what with the revelations of Carlos Miguel Allende, it was bound to come out anyhow…. The government found and captured all the Bigfoot (there were only about 3 dozen known to exist) in late 1942 and was planning to use them against the Nazis. With that in mind, they were all placed aboard the USS Eldriidge for the Project Rainbow experiments of 1943. The results were a total disaster. The Bigfoot were even more antisocial and distrustful of all humans; because they faded into and out of our plane of existence, they were easily able to escape and impossible to track over large distances; and they seemed to have developed some sort of electrical or magnetic sixth sense, which helped them avoid recapture.
Well, if there’s places in Washington for a bigfoot to live, around the area of Mt. St. Helens would probably be one of them. Lots of big open area out there, you just feel more away from everything there. I live somewhat nearby, so some experience.
There is a gentleman named Lloyd Pye who makes an argument on why Governments around the world would keep such things secret…I’m not saying his argument is sound or even reasonable, but it is an argument.
The impact of a Hominid species could affect everything from Religion to Human origin.
Suppressing DNA evidence? A 30 million base pair genomes? 48 chromosomes in primates versus 46 chromosomes in humans…we descended from primates yet lost 2 chromosomes? How many would a Bigfoot carry?
Makes you wonder what DNA evidence is actually out there with Dr Melba Ketchum and others, and why it takes so long to publish.
If Bigfoot does exist, Mt St Helens would have been an area suited for a Bigfoot population, and “if” Bigfoot existed in that area, surely finding dead or burned animals would have been a possibility.
Maybe every Bigfoot story is a fake…but if only one is true…that would change everything.
Fans of the UFO mystery will know it’s a cover up. There are many things our government will keep hush, hush and this is one of them. I truly believe they know this and a misinformation campaign mixed with a smattering of the truth makes it go along way. Sons of Cain? Ask Mitt Romney.
This story has just got to be pure fiction. Talking sasquatch interacting with humans like it was perfectly normal. Please. I am baffled why this story was given any credence in the first place. Again the informant is anonymous and Standard Operating Procedures of the military do not appear to have been adhered to here at all. So many red flags so much of my precious time wasted on reading this and responding.
The impact of a Hominid species could affect everything from Religion to Human origin.
Nonsense. Chimps, bonobos, and gorillas are all members of the family Hominidae. No problem for religion.
And remember, even St. Jerome seems to have believed in at least the possibility of satyrs and centaurs. It wasn’t a problem for him then; why would anyone think it would be a problem today?
Nonbelievers seem to have a superstitious belief in the next big discovery that will cause religion to collapse like a house of cards. First it was the heliocentric model, then evolution, then the discovery of distant galaxies, or maybe that physics is much weirder than we had thought. These days its usually Martian microbes, or maybe a bipedal ape, both still unconfirmed but not yet decisively ruled out; but even if they are discovered, you can bet the farm they will have no major impact on religion.
Religion is not just going to fold like that house of cards, but if you want to know what it’s biggest threat is, you’d be in much better shape putting your money on cable TV. Bread and circuses are still the key to distracting the masses.
Ugh. “its biggest threat”, not “it’s biggest threat”.
What would be the point of this disinformation? Are you all aware of an almost identical story from northern Nevada? And if you think that they don’t possess language, THINK AGAIN. Do you imagine our closest relatives are MUTE APES?
I’m sorry. You don’t know what I know.
I’m sorry. You don’t know what I know.
Very true. For example, I don’t know if you know how to conjugate verbs in German. I don’t know if you know what a frog’s kidneys look like. I don’t know if you know how to perform integration by parts, or if you know how to drive a car with manual transmission. What you know is largely unknown to all of us out here.
Likewise, what you leave unsaid is not an argument.
BTW, it’s in Thom Powell’s book, from more than one source, I believe. Not sayin’ it’s gospel, but Powell and his experiences demand some respect. Which you seem to be short on.
@Fhqwhgads
You made my point with your examples.
Religion believes we were created by a God, and a God created all the animals as well. Science says we came from the Sea and eventually descended from primates.
Lloyd Pye claims we were genetically engineered by beings from other worlds…and much of his DNA and chromosome examples support his claim
Science has always searched for the “Missing Link” between man and apes, Religion states there is no such thing as a “Missing Link” as we are not linked to apes
If Bigfoot, Yeti, Orang Pendek, Almas, are all following the genetic rules of science with 48 chromosomes as with all other primates, then why do we have 46 if we descended from primates?
If we did not descend from primates then we were in fact “Created”.
If we were “Created” by God 6000 years ago or by beings from other worlds 250,000 years ago would impact Religion, science, and history.
Then there is also the possibility that is Bigfoot, Yeti, Almas, Orang Pendek, would have the DNA Markers that show they are Human…Homosapien. I am sure that would “impact” most all Sundays at Church
While I do not think this story holds any weight what so ever, I do understand that if some large primate with an expansive potential range, as well as potentially being migratory does exist, the government would likely attempt to keep it secretly safe and relegated to certain areas, so to allow for the continuation of varying resource acquiring. This is something most of us have read about I am sure, in that if there were a protected species, especially a primate, and more so even one that is bi-pedal and humanoid, the lands in which it traversed would have to be protected, and therefore no mining, lumber jacking, oil drilling, or development could be done there. Thus severely hindering, or even putting to a halt many of these industries’ presence in the United States.
I do not see the impact on religion being relevant, as people who take religion so literally as to assume there is no room for the idea of evolution or that we are the only humanoid species that isn’t relegated to the wild, are so brainwashed that they would be unlikely to change their minds even if G-D him/her self came to earth (or them personally) and told them otherwise.
Please share, goodfoot, unless the black helicopters are hovering overhead.
Had to come back to say:
This is what happens when science cedes a field to the amateurs. Some of them are, kinda, well, amateurish.
If the sasquatch is real, the only people whose worlds it will overturn are those who were flat convinced this was all hooey (as witness reports of sightings by converted scoffers who haven’t been able to sleep or turn the lights out since).
The preponderance of the evidence says:
There are critters in the fossil record that if you saw one tomorrow, you’d say you saw Bigfoot.
I think The Holy Bible will survive it. I’m betting on the Tibetan Book of the Dead, too. What the hell, toss in the Talmud.
@CDC
Your example only works if the only religion you know is the Primitive Baptist Church down the street.
I should expand on that a bit.
Speaking only for Christians, there are at least 2 types. (There are more, but this is sufficient.)
One group is the Fundamentalists. These have a real suspicion of science already, and tend to believe (very much like a lot of cryptozoology fans) that there is a vast scientific conspiracy to hide the evidence for creation in 144 hours some 6000 years ago. If a Bigfoot were produced for them as a “missing link” (which Patty at least is certainly not), they would almost certainly dismiss it as either (a) a human trick, perhaps achieved through genetic engineering, or (b) a deceit of the Devil, like when the Jannes and Jambres turned their staffs into serpents. Regardless, since Fundamentalists maintain their faith in spite of all the fossil and genetic evidence, one would have to have at least as much naive faith as they do (though in a different direction) to think that a living or dead Bigfoot would disturb their beliefs.
The other group, on the other hand, knows that, as a friend of mine likes to say, the Bible is a book written by and for grown-ups. People have ALWAYS, not just after Darwin, had trouble understanding Genesis when giving it a naive interpretation. This is what kept Augustine of Hippo from becoming a Christian — until, that is, he met St. Ambrose of Milan, who showed him the proper way to read Scriptures. That was fully 1600 years ago, and many of the ideas are centuries older than that. This group does not see the evolution of humans from apes as being either more or less dignified, or in fact meaningfully different, than being created from slime, as Genesis records. Like most people, they would probably be surprised if a living or dead sasquatch were to be found, but their surprise would not be for religious reasons, let alone precipitate a crisis of faith.
Scott Bowen looks like Kurt Warner. (famous quarterback)
The story?…struck me as very creative writing.
The mysterious civilian “uh, hey big guy. Sorry about your loss buddy. if there is anything I can do for ya, just ask. Oh and thanks for all the deer meat last year, give my regards to the surviving family” Bigfoot “will do pal, and I do aprecialte your support. I will keep the deer meat coming. Sucks about the valcano thing but hey we still have each other right? Give us a hug man!” What a crock!
If Bigfoot (I prefer Sasquatch myself) can talk, why didn’t Justin Smeja hear “Please don’t shoot?”