Myakka Finally Solved

Posted by: Loren Coleman on April 1st, 2007

Look carefully at all of these images of, especially, the face of the Myakka whatever.

Myakka Ape

Take note of the wrinkles between the eyes. The placement of the nostrils. The spacing between the eyes. The lack of a tail.

Myakka Ape

Look closely at the angle of the hair as it gently falls off the head. Measure the forehead. Examine how the white beard goes far down across the chest area.

Myakka Ape

Concentrate on how different the face is from that of the actors in The Planet of the Apes. Compare the color of the Myakka beard to what is actually found for an orangutan. The Myakka face is not modeled after any ape mask in The Planet of the Apes, that seems certain.

Myakka Ape

Click on the scientific comparison between images above for a full size version.

Could the Myakka photograph been the result of someone wearing the same or similar mask used in yesterday’s “Bigfoot Academic” posting? What if the model for the mask used for the Myakka “ape” is really a copycat of the character, dudh, “Harry” of Harry and the Hendersons?

Bigfoot Academic

Has the Myakka photographs finally been solved?

Harry

Or is this an April Fools’ Joke? You decide.

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37 Responses to “Myakka Finally Solved”

  1. Bob Michaels responds:

    Model is an Orang.

  2. Beachdaddy03 responds:

    I still say too look at the foot of this creature. If this was an orangutan the big toe should be on the side of the foot. Not pointing straight forward. As to being a hoax. I don’t know. In my opinion I don’t think the Myakka photos are solved.

  3. mrdark responds:

    Happy April Fools Day, Loren. 🙂

  4. a_welch90 responds:

    Case still open. The Myakka thing is a real-looking creature, it doesn’t look like a mask.

  5. Rillo777 responds:

    You can see my comments on the original thread, but I and another photographer took a close look at this photo and ran it through some programs and we still think it is a fake. I still say it is a costume with a mask and probably two people in the costume itself (notice the hump on the creature’s back where a person’s head might be). Also, all the lighting is wrong for this strong of a flash. No appropriate hard shadows, etc. I and my colleague think that it is a costume augmented by some photoshop techniques and the background shows some possible manipulation, too. Like I said, the original thread has our observations in greater detail.

  6. Loren Coleman responds:

    Claims of Photoshop manipulation remain merely claims.

    Show me hard shadows in photographs of animals taken in the dark behind some palmettos by automatic flash, with self-contained film cameras from the 1990s.

    Those are different issues than the possible nature of what the object being photographed is.

  7. richard_from_idaho responds:

    That is a fearsome looking critter – hoax or no hoax. I’m going with real animal. Would not like to irritate it if I stumbled across it in the boonies.

  8. Lee Murphy responds:

    Craig Woolheater once pointed out (and I agree) that the Myakka animal looks exactly like the model of a Yeti in the Ripley’s Believe It Or Not Museum.

  9. Loren Coleman responds:

    The Ripley Believe or Not model has already been dismissed. See John Chambers & Myakka.

    Woolheater? I’m not sure it began with him. Are you sure that wasn’t someone on the BFRO or BFF who came up with that debunking idea? Meldrum has repeated it without looking closely at the photos, apparently, or noticing the “flip” of the image.

  10. bukko responds:

    Those pictures are probably fake. Maybe not. But one thing is for certain, people will go to a whole lotta effort to produce fake pictures and videos. Ya gotta admire that about all those fakers. But really I don’t. At least we got that funny Virginia bigfoot video! What a hoot!

  11. HOOSIERHUNTER responds:

    It’s a joke. Or maybe it’s a bigfoot in an orangutan suit just messing with us? 🙂

  12. HOOSIERHUNTER responds:

    BTW- Rillo777 may be right. I’ve taken some photos in the past at night with a flash of animals behind foliage and there’s always deep shadows when they’re that close to the leaves.

  13. YourPTR! responds:

    I don’t think those photos are faked. It looks remarkably like an orangutan.

  14. wildmanmarty responds:

    I don’t know if this is real or fake. With all the discussion and study, it is obviously a well done hoax, if that is what it is. Although I am an artist who has also studied photography, I am not a photo expert. But as far as shadow effects, there are not a lot of shadows caused by the leaf overlap, either. Also, if you look around the white chest area of the figure, there does appear to be some shadowing.

    Again, I am merely speculating (which often drives my wife crazy!), but it is an interesting image. I keep going back to the eyeshine and wonder how it was done, if it is in fact a hoax, especially since the eyeshine is diminished in the second photo. If the eyeshine were form an artificial light source, I would think it would be the diameter as the first photo, unless a hoaxer had taken that into consideration and compensated, which seems to be a bit of a stretch to me. I am on the fence on this one, until someone proves it a hoax.

  15. hlw responds:

    As track photographer at New England Dragway throughout the 70’s, I shot thousands of outdoor photos. Mostly subjects a bit more animated like dragsters. One thing I do know is that film cameras (not digital) with flash can be remarkably inconsistent. The difference in eyeglare here is pretty irrelevant as the flash strength is considerably less in the second photo. Also there are shadows on the chest as well as under the nose. Look at the fronds the shadows are not that strong there from frond to frond. This is not a large professional flash by any stretch of the imagination. The bright flash area in the front group of fronds is probably the shiny side of the fronds. I would be more concerned with the lack of movement between the two photos. Only the head seems to have moved a little. Look at the smaller grouping of fronds to the left of the shiny ones, they appear to have moved a bit as if pressure was taken off them. Overall very interesting but not quite conclusive by speculation alone.

    P.S. Harry seems to excited by the whole thing.

  16. RockerEm responds:

    It’s not convincing enough to be an orangutan. Yet not convincing enough to be this mystery creature. Who knows?

  17. john5 responds:

    These pics gave me the heebees when they first appeared on the net and I have to say that they still do! The change in eye shine as the beastie is rising up in the second pic (according to the palms in the foreground) would be a difficult feature to fake. The mouth interior also appears to be complete and not the result of someone wearing a mask as in Planet of the Apes.

    What really unnerves me about these pics are the large, slender canines. They make this being look like a carnivore rather than long, stout canines of primate vegetarians.

    At first this ‘Myakka’ looked like a large male orangutan given the big round head only found on a fully mature male orang. A quick look at the canine teeth though can point to something else. The canines on male orangs point outwards on both the upper and lower jaws. They are used for breaking and processing different forms of vegetation and fruits. The canines of the lower jaw on both pictures of Myakka clearly point inwards. Is this an indication of a hoax or an unknown species?

    Here are some pice of skull cast of both Borneo and Sumatran male Orangutans for a viewing comparison:

    Sumatran Male Orang Skull Casts
    Photo 1
    Photo 2

    Borneo Male Orang Shul Casts
    Photo 1
    Photo 2

    Photos of male orangs baring teeth:
    Photo 1
    Photo 2
    Photo 3

    I would have to say that the Myakka teeth are definitely not orangutan teeth! The long gray-haired ape beings found in the swamps and bayous north of Florida are said to have been seen swimming after fish. Maybe the Myakka has long canines for catching fish, etc. in the everglades as I would expect to find canines like these on any animal feeding fish or having to catch and hold some kind of prey.

    As well the grayish beard hairs appear to carry on down into chest hairs in the form of a blaze. Is this an indication of maturity? Is this something a hoaxer would take the time to replicate?

    The body hair is very orangutan-like but darker. The posture appears hunched and is typical for orangs but I really cannot see these pictures being either a person(s) in a hairy costume or an orangutan given the teeth. If there are any true pictures taken of the fabled skunk-ape I would have to say that these would be good examples.

    Peace

    P.S. – An interesting note – The orangutan is the only other Great Ape that has heavy enamel on its teeth like human beings do!

  18. john5 responds:

    There appear to be many similarities with these pics of a Myakka and an adult male orangutan. The big round head and large facial disc, the toes, the long body hair and the hunched over posture. However there is one key difference found in the teeth. The male orangutan canines point outwards in both the upper and lower jaws as viewed on these skull casts at skullsunlimited.com :

    Borneo Male Orangutan

    Sumatran Male Orangutan

    The lower canines on this Myakka point inwards and appear to be more slender and possibly longer than the orangs. Is this evidence of a hoax or an unknown hominid?

    These canines are the kind that could be expected on any animal that needs to grab and hold a prey rather than breaking and processing of fruits and vegetation like the stout ones found on orangutans. Given that the skunk-ape is found in the Everglades it would not be surprising to find out it is a fisheater!

    Here are a couple of more pics for your consideration:
    Photo 1
    Photo 2

    These Myakka pics gave me the heebees when they first appeared on the Net and they still do! The change of eyeshine as it is rising up in the second pic, according to the foreground palms, would be difficult to hoax. The lack of shaddowsfrom the palms could be the result of the car headlights diminishing the flash effect, as these pics were taken by the side of some Florida highway in the Everglades.

    Peace

  19. greenmartian2007 responds:

    My two cents….

    All interesting comments.

    But there may be a pathway to solving the issue.

    Look at the teeth in the mandible. Do ourangs have dentition like that, with very prominent lower fangs like that? Not even Gigantopithecus fossil remains of the mandible have teeth like that.

    Answer the question of whether the lower row of teeth for an ourang has or has not those big dagger like things in it, and you will have your answer.

    I am willing to wager that the ourang has not. (But since I am writing this extemporaneously, I could be wrong. But prove me wrong.)

    And there you will find your answer of fake or not.

    The data is there. Look at all of it.

    The only time I had seen such a weird set of fangs was on a squirrel on a University campus I was at, at the time (Penn State I believe). The squirrel’s teeth had a problem, and one of the lower teeth didn’t meet the upper properly, so it had this five inch “fang” growing up past its face on its mandible. But that was a sad natural happenstance.

    This thing in the Myakka photos….? Happenstance? Or Enemy action?

  20. Unknown Primate responds:

    Looks like a MONSTER-sized orangsquatch to me. I’ve alway been intrigued by this photo, and just last night, enjoyed reading about it in detail via Loren’s “BIGFOOT! The True Story Of Apes In America”

  21. greenmartian2007 responds:

    Some interesting comments.

    However, there is a way perhaps to resolve the issue.

    Look at the creature’s dentition.

    Compare that dentition to a real ourang. Although I am writing extemporaneously here, I would doubt that ourangs have mandible dentition that result in the prominent “fangs” shown. I encourage the posting of the teeth (either via a skull, or jaw casts) of the dentition of a real ourang. Then everyone can compare them.

    I don’t even think Gigantopithecus had fangs like that, based on the imagery I have seen of its lower mandible.

    Monster costumes do, however.

    I recall while visiting a university campus (perhaps Penn State) where I had eyewitnessed a squirrel there that had the unfortunate happenstance of not having its teeth meet together properly, and it had a lower “fang” about five inches long protrude beyond its muzzle and face.

    But one cannot say that here. The “fangs” stick out pretty good on both sides of that mandible of the alleged “adult” whatsit here.

    Not a real creature, it appears.

  22. ranrand responds:

    As with the P/G footage you can tell which is a hoax and what isn’t. In 1967 what idiot would think “Maybe we should put breasts on this thing to make it look more realistic”. These photos from Port Myakka look too real to be a hoax. If it is a hoax and I’m wrong I’ll admit it but as far as I’m concerned these are the two best pieces of evidence we have besides all the footprints that seem to spring up all over the U.S. and abroad.

  23. DARHOP responds:

    Two people in a costume…? Give me a break…!!!! I don’t think it is one person in a costume… I believe and have a strange feeling that what we are looking at here is the real thing… What ever it is… I lean towards an Old Orang… But definatetly not two people in a costume… not even one…

  24. ELCOOCO responds:

    Loren ….cool joke ….Gary Mangiacopra says hello! …….have a great week

  25. Sam Freedom responds:

    I keep an open mind but I just can’t help but always find this stuff pretty ridiculous. Since I’m not in the culture, I get more of a birdseye view and all the stories just seem to blend and start to sound the same after a while. But, for what it’s worth, I just came on over here after hearing this place mentioned by George Noory on coasttocoastam and I’m going to take a little shot at debunking this pic.

    Nature doesn’t seem to make too many accidents when it comes to designing creatures. The animal in the night photo that everyone is wondering about and comparing to an orangutan, first of all, has the long grey beard, suggesting it’s an elder. The problem I have with that is that it’s pretty big, rugged and upright for anything remotely orang OR elderly.

    It’s coat is also looking fairly youthful but the most questionable aspect are the lower teeth. If you notice, there are sharp canines on both rows. I’ll give ya the top row but not the bottom one. Those are the kind of teeth I’d expect to see in a meat-eater, and even more specifically, a cat… but definitely a meat-eater.

    So, if that thing is eating meat, then there sure as hell better be a steady food supply for it. Where are the carcasses? I mean, more than just the random cow mutilation, or the missing cat or dog. Just look at how big it is and ask yourself how many pounds of food a Great Dane goes through each month. Then multiply that times 10 and something suggests to me that these things better have a secret stash of sheep somewhere. And a degree in ranching.

    Lastly, and please prove me wrong, but if the thing had time to open its mouth wide in a scream-like fashion, then why the hell didn’t it have time to BLINK?!

    Come on guys, you need to do better than that. I’m not only not a believer, but I’m a very unique non-believer. And you will never catch my kind on camera. 😉 And a parting word of advice, get that costume back to “Spookyworld” before they start charging you late fees.

  26. shumway10973 responds:

    If the photo is a fake, ie: costume etc., then I will give the people putting this on a round of applause and shake thier hand(s) because unlike the hoaxes we’ve seen recently, this one is really good. Unless this is a type of taxidermy fun project, the person (if fake) even put in some fake teeth. Notice the lower eye teeth. Everything is about right for what they are saying it is. One thing I find interesting is for the power the flash is suppose to be, the eyes aren’t glowing back like a human’s would. So, either way, I’m impressed and I would rather believe it’s real.

  27. Sam Freedom responds:

    Why wasn’t my analysis posted?

  28. tennisbetsy responds:

    It is clearly a large, smelly skunk ape.

  29. john5 responds:

    There are many similarities between this Myakka and amature male orangutan. The large round head and face shield (that only older male orangs develop); long leathery fingers (toes?); long body hair and a hunched over posture. However there is one important difference – its canines!

    The canines on both upper and lower jaws of adult orangs point outwards. The lower canines of the Myakka clearly point inward and appear to be more slender and possibly longer. Is this the result of emblishment and error by a hoaxer or an unknown species.

    Sumatran Male Orangutan Skull Cast
    http://www.skullsunlimited.com/graphics/tq-421-lg.jpg

    Borneo Male Orangutan Skull Cast
    http://www.skullsunlimited.com/graphics/tq-426-lg.jpg

    Yawning Male
    http://www.fotosearch.com/DGT084/42-16422949/

    An Upset Male Orang
    http://www.fotosearch.com/BDX236/bxp40921/

    These long, slender, inward pointing fangs of the Mylakka look more carnivorous than the typical great ape. These canines would be ideal for catching and processing fish. It would not be a surprise to learn they eat fish given the Mylakka lives in the swampy Everglades.

    The eye shine is also interesting. Note how the shine dims as the critter is rising up in the second pic(according to the foreground palms). Could this have been hoaxed?

    The lighter beard hairs appear to carry on down the chest hair in the form of a blaze of sorts. Is this a sign of maturity for this unknown species or part of a hoax? Would hoaxers take the time over this type of subtle detail?

    The unusual lighting and/or camera flash in these pics could be the result of the car headlights as these pictures were taken at night by a woman driving along a stretch of highway in the Everglades if I am recalling correctly. Slight palm leaf shadow can be seen on the creatures hair but possibly the hair has a more light absorbant quality than light reflective hence dimming the shadows.

    These pictures gave me the heebees when they first appeared on the web and in fact they still do! Personally I do not think these pics are hoaxed. By the way the hair stood up on my arms when I first viewed these pictures I would have to say they are of some unknown species very likely a Myakka.

    Eventually someone somewhere around the globe is going to be credited with taking undisputable authentic close-up pictures of these rare hominid beings. I am looking forward to the day!

  30. john5 responds:

    There appear to be many similarities with these pics of a Myakka and an adult male orangutan. The big round head and large facial disc, the leathery fingers (toes?), the long body hair and a hunched over posture. However there is one key difference – the canines. The male orangutans have canines that point outwards in both upper and lower jaws.

    Borneo Male Orangutan Skull Cast
    http://www.skullsunlimited.com/graphics/tq-426-lg.jpg

    Sumatran Male Orangutan Skull Cast
    http://www.skullsunlimited.com/graphics/tq-421-lg.jpg

    Upset Male Orang
    http://www.fotosearch.com/BDX236/bxp40921/

    Male Orang Yawning
    http://www.fotosearch.com/DGT084/42-16422949/

    The lower canines on this Myakka point inwards and appear to be more slender and possibly longer than the orangs. Is this evidence of embellishment and error on the part of hoaxers or of an unknown species of hominid?

    These canines appear more carnivorous like the kind that could be expected on any animal that needs to grab and hold a prey rather than breaking and processing of fruits and vegetation like the stout ones found on orangutans. Given that the skunk-ape is found in the Everglades it would not be surprising to find out it is a fish-eater!

    The change of eyeshine is also interesting as it rises up in the second pic (according to the foreground palms). Could this detail have been hoaxed or planned? I think it would be difficult for eyes in a costume to be so reflective and reflect differently than human eyes.

    The lack of shadows from the palms could be the result of car headlights diminishing the flash effect. If memory serves me right these pics were taken at night by a woman driving along a Florida highway through the Everglades. Possibly its hair has a more light absorbent quality than a light reflective one hence the diminished shadows.

    The light coloured beard hairs appear to travel down through the chest hair as well in a kind of blaze. Is this an indication of maturity in this species or is it a detail thought necessary to install by hoaxers?

    These pics gave me the heebees when they first appeared on the Net and they still do! By the way my arm hair stood up on first seeing them combined with a lack of clear hoaxing evidence I feel these pictures are the real McCoy and possibly of the Myakka!

    Peace

    P.S. An interesting fact – Orangutans are the only other great ape to have a thick dental enamel just like human teeth!

  31. john5 responds:

    There appear to be many similarities with these pics of a Myakka and an adult male orangutan. The big round head and large facial disc, the leathery fingers (toes?), the long body hair and a hunched over posture.

    However there is one key difference – the canines. Adult male orangutans canines in both upper and lower jaws point outwards.

    Borneo Male Orangutan Skull Cast
    http://www.skullsunlimited.com/graphics/tq-426-lg.jpg

    Sumatran Male Orangutan Skull Cast
    http://www.skullsunlimited.com/graphics/tq-421-lg.jpg

    Upset Male Orang
    http://www.fotosearch.com/BDX236/bxp40921/

    Male Orang Yawning
    http://www.fotosearch.com/DGT084/42-16422949/

    The lower canines on this Myakka point inwards and appear to be more slender and possibly longer than the orangs. Could this be evidence of embellishment and error on the part of hoaxers or evidence of an unknown species of hominid?

    These canines appear more carnivorous like the kind that could be expected on any animal that needs to grab and hold a prey rather than breaking and processing of fruits and vegetation like the stout ones found on orangutans. Given that the skunk-ape is found in the Everglades it would not be surprising to find out it is a fish-eater!

    The change of eyeshine is also interesting as it rises up in the second pic (according to the foreground palms). Could this detail have been hoaxed or planned? I think it would be difficult for eyes in a costume to be so reflective and reflect differently than human eyes.

    The lack of shadows from the palms could be the result of car headlights diminishing the flash effect. If memory serves me right these pics were taken at night by a woman driving along a Florida highway through the Everglades. Possibly its hair has a more light absorbent quality than a light reflective one hence the diminished shadows.

    The light coloured beard hairs appear to travel down through the chest hair as well in a kind of blaze. Is this an indication of maturity in this species or is it a detail thought necessary to install by hoaxers?

    These pics gave me the heebees when they first appeared on the Net and they still do! By the way my arm hair stood up on first seeing them combined with a lack of clear hoaxing evidence I feel these pictures are the real McCoy and possibly of the Myakka!

    Peace

    P.S. An interesting fact – Orangutans are the only other great ape to have a thick dental enamel just like human teeth!

  32. john5 responds:

    There appear to be many similarities with these pics of a Myakka and an adult male orangutan. The big round head and large facial disc, the leathery fingers (toes?), the long body hair and a hunched over posture.

    However there is one key difference – the canines. Adult male orangutans canines in both upper and lower jaws point outwards.

    Borneo Male Orangutan Skull Cast
    http://www.skullsunlimited.com/graphics/tq-426-lg.jpg

    Sumatran Male Orangutan Skull Cast
    http://www.skullsunlimited.com/graphics/tq-421-lg.jpg

    Upset Male Orang
    http://www.fotosearch.com/BDX236/bxp40921/

    Male Orang Yawning
    http://www.fotosearch.com/DGT084/42-16422949/

    The lower canines on this Myakka point inwards and appear to be more slender and possibly longer than the orangs. Could this be evidence of embellishment and error on the part of hoaxers or evidence of an unknown species of hominid?

    These canines appear more carnivorous like the kind that could be expected on any animal that needs to grab and hold a prey rather than breaking and processing of fruits and vegetation like the stout ones found on orangutans. Given that the skunk-ape is found in the Everglades it would not be surprising to find out it is a fish-eater!

    The change of eyeshine is also interesting as it rises up in the second pic (according to the foreground palms). Could this detail have been hoaxed or planned? I think it would be difficult for eyes in a costume to be so reflective and reflect differently than human eyes.

    The lack of shadows from the palms could be the result of car headlights diminishing the flash effect. If memory serves me right these pics were taken at night by a woman driving along a Florida highway through the Everglades. Possibly its hair has a more light absorbent quality than a light reflective one hence the diminished shadows.

    The light coloured beard hairs appear to travel down through the chest hair as well in a kind of blaze. Is this an indication of maturity in this species or is it a detail thought necessary to install by hoaxers?

    These pics gave me the heebees when they first appeared on the Net and they still do! By the way my arm hair stood up on first seeing them combined with a lack of clear hoaxing evidence I feel these pictures are the real McCoy and possibly of the Myakka!

    Peace

    P.S. An interesting fact – Orangutans are the only other great ape to have a thick dental enamel, just like human teeth!

  33. john5 responds:

    There appear to be many similarities with these pics of a Myakka and an adult male orangutan. The big round head and large facial disc, the toes, the long body hair and the hunched over posture. However there is one key difference – the canines. The male orangutans have canines that point outwards in both upper and lower jaws.

    Borneo Male Orangutan Skull Cast
    http://www.skullsunlimited.com/graphics/tq-426-lg.jpg
    Sumatran Male Orangutan Skull Cast
    http://www.skullsunlimited.com/graphics/tq-421-lg.jpg
    Upset Male Orang
    http://www.fotosearch.com/BDX236/bxp40921/
    Male Orang Yawning
    http://www.fotosearch.com/DGT084/42-16422949/

    The lower canines on this Myakka point inwards and appear to be more slender and possibly longer than the orangs. Is this evidence of embellishment and error on the part of hoaxers or of an unknown species of hominid?

    These canines appear more carnivorous like the kind that could be expected on any animal that needs to grab and hold a prey rather than breaking and processing of fruits and vegetation like the stout ones found on orangutans. Given that the skunk-ape is found in the Everglades it would not be surprising to find out it is a fish-eater!

    The change of eyeshine is also interesting as it is rising up in the second pic (according to the foreground palms). Could this detail have been hoaxed or planned? I think it would be difficult for eyes in a costume to be so reflective.

    The lack of shadows from the palms could be the result of the car headlights diminishing the flash effect If memory serves me correctly these pics were taken at night by a woman driving along a Florida highway in the Everglades. Possibly the hair has a more light absorbent quality than a light reflective one hence the diminished shadows.

    The light coloured beard hairs appear to travel down through the chest hair as a kind of blaze. Is this an indication of maturity in this species or is it a detail thought necessary to install by hoaxers?

    These pics gave me the heebees when they first appeared on the Net and they still do! By the way my arm hair stood up on first seeing them combined with a lack of clear hoaxing evidence I feel these pictures are the real McCoy and possibly of the Myakka!

    Peace

    There appear to be many similarities with these pics of a Myakka and an adult male orangutan. The big round head and large facial disc, the leathery fingers (toes?), the long body hair and a hunched over posture.

    However there is one key difference – the canines. Adult male orangutans canines in both upper and lower jaws point outwards.

    Borneo Male Orangutan Skull Cast
    http://www.skullsunlimited.com/graphics/tq-426-lg.jpg

    Sumatran Male Orangutan Skull Cast
    http://www.skullsunlimited.com/graphics/tq-421-lg.jpg

    Upset Male Orang
    http://www.fotosearch.com/BDX236/bxp40921/

    Male Orang Yawning
    http://www.fotosearch.com/DGT084/42-16422949/

    The lower canines on this Myakka point inwards and appear to be more slender and possibly longer than the orangs. Could this be evidence of embellishment and error on the part of hoaxers or evidence of an unknown species of hominid?

    These canines appear more carnivorous like the kind that could be expected on any animal that needs to grab and hold a prey rather than breaking and processing of fruits and vegetation like the stout ones found on orangutans. Given that the skunk-ape is found in the Everglades it would not be surprising to find out it is a fish-eater!

    The change of eyeshine is also interesting as it rises up in the second pic (according to the foreground palms). Could this detail have been hoaxed or planned? I think it would be difficult for eyes in a costume to be so reflective and reflect differently than human eyes.

    The lack of shadows from the palms could be the result of car headlights diminishing the flash effect. If memory serves me right these pics were taken at night by a woman driving along a Florida highway through the Everglades. Possibly its hair has a more light absorbent quality than a light reflective one hence the diminished shadows.

    The light coloured beard hairs appear to travel down through the chest hair as well in a kind of blaze. Is this an indication of maturity in this species or is it a detail thought necessary to install by hoaxers?

    These pics gave me the heebees when they first appeared on the Net and they still do! By the way my arm hair stood up on first seeing them combined with a lack of clear hoaxing evidence I feel these pictures are the real McCoy and possibly of the Myakka!

    Peace

    P.S. An interesting fact – Orangutans are the only other great ape to have thick dental enamel, just like human teeth!

  34. john5 responds:

    There appear to be many similarities with these pics of a Myakka and an adult male orangutan. The big round head and large facial disc, the toes, the long body hair and the hunched over posture. However there is one key difference – the canines. The male orangutans have canines in both upper and lower jawsthat point outwards.

    Borneo Male Orangutan Skull Cast
    http://www.skullsunlimited.com/graphics/tq-426-lg.jpg
    Sumatran Male Orangutan Skull Cast
    http://www.skullsunlimited.com/graphics/tq-421-lg.jpg
    Upset Male Orang
    http://www.fotosearch.com/BDX236/bxp40921/
    Male Orang Yawning
    http://www.fotosearch.com/DGT084/42-16422949/

    The lower canines on this Myakka point inwards and appear to be more slender and possibly longer than the orangs. Is this evidence of embellishment and error on the part of hoaxers or of an unknown species of hominid?

    These canines appear more carnivorous like the kind that could be expected on any animal that needs to grab and hold a prey rather than breaking and processing of fruits and vegetation like the stout ones found on orangutans. Given that the skunk-ape is found in the Everglades it would not be surprising to find out it is a fish-eater!

    The change of eyeshine is also interesting as it is rising up in the second pic (according to the foreground palms). Could this detail have been hoaxed or planned? I think it would be difficult for eyes in a costume to be so reflective.

    The lack of shadows from the palms could be the result of the car headlights diminishing the flash effect If memory serves me correctly these pics were taken at night by a woman driving along a Florida highway in the Everglades. Possibly the hair has a more light absorbent quality than a light reflective one hence the diminished shadows.

    The light coloured beard hairs appear to travel down through the chest hair as a kind of blaze. Is this an indication of maturity in this species or is it a detail thought necessary to install by hoaxers?

    These pics gave me the heebees when they first appeared on the Net and they still do! By the way my arm hair stood up on first seeing them combined with a lack of clear hoaxing evidence I feel these pictures are the real McCoy and possibly of the Myakka!

    Peace

    There appear to be many similarities with these pics of a Myakka and an adult male orangutan. The big round head and large facial disc, the leathery fingers (toes?), the long body hair and a hunched over posture.

    However there is one key difference – the canines. Adult male orangutans canines in both upper and lower jaws point outwards.

    Borneo Male Orangutan Skull Cast
    http://www.skullsunlimited.com/graphics/tq-426-lg.jpg

    Sumatran Male Orangutan Skull Cast
    http://www.skullsunlimited.com/graphics/tq-421-lg.jpg

    Upset Male Orang
    http://www.fotosearch.com/BDX236/bxp40921/

    Male Orang Yawning
    http://www.fotosearch.com/DGT084/42-16422949/

    The lower canines on this Myakka point inwards and appear to be more slender and possibly longer than the orangs. Could this be evidence of embellishment and error on the part of hoaxers or evidence of an unknown species of hominid?

    These canines appear more carnivorous like the kind that could be expected on any animal that needs to grab and hold a prey rather than breaking and processing of fruits and vegetation like the stout ones found on orangutans. Given that the skunk-ape is found in the Everglades it would not be surprising to find out it is a fish-eater!

    The change of eyeshine is also interesting as it rises up in the second pic (according to the foreground palms). Could this detail have been hoaxed or planned? I think it would be difficult for eyes in a costume to be so reflective and reflect differently than human eyes.

    The lack of shadows from the palms could be the result of car headlights diminishing the flash effect. If memory serves me right these pics were taken at night by a woman driving along a Florida highway through the Everglades. Possibly its hair has a more light absorbent quality than a light reflective one hence the diminished shadows.

    The light coloured beard hairs appear to travel down through the chest hair as well in a kind of blaze. Is this an indication of maturity in this species or is it a detail thought necessary to install by hoaxers?

    These pics gave me the heebees when they first appeared on the Net and they still do! By the way my arm hair stood up on first seeing them combined with a lack of clear hoaxing evidence I feel these pictures are the real McCoy and possibly of the Myakka!

    Peace

    P.S. An interesting fact – Orangutans are the only other great ape to have thick dental enamel, just like human teeth!

  35. john5 responds:

    There appear to be many similarities with these pics of a Myakka and an adult male orangutan. The big round head and large facial disc, the leathery fingers (toes?), the long body hair and a hunched over posture.
    However there is one key difference – the canines. Adult male orangutans canines in both upper and lower jaws point outwards.

    Borneo Male Orangutan Skull Cast
    http://www.skullsunlimited.com/graphics/tq-426-lg.jpg
    Sumatran Male Orangutan Skull Cast
    http://www.skullsunlimited.com/graphics/tq-421-lg.jpg
    Upset Male Orang
    http://www.fotosearch.com/BDX236/bxp40921/
    Male Orang Yawning
    http://www.fotosearch.com/DGT084/42-16422949/

    The lower canines on this Myakka point inwards and appear to be more slender and possibly longer than the orangs. Could this be evidence of an unknown species or of embellishment and error on the part of hoaxers? These canines appear more to be more carnivorous and almost catlike. Given that Skunk-ape is found in the Everglades it would not be surprising to learn it eats fish!

    The change of eyeshine is also interesting as it rises up in the second pic (according to the foreground palms). I think it would be difficult for eyes in a costume to be so reflective and different from human eyes.

    The lack of shadows from the palms could be the result of car headlights diminishing the flash effect. If memory serves me right these pics were taken at night by a woman driving along a Florida highway through the Everglades. Possibly its hair has a more light absorbent quality than a light reflective one hence the diminished shadows.

    The light coloured beard hairs appear to travel down through the chest hair as well in a kind of blaze. This could indicate either the maturity or gender within the species.

    By the way my arm hair stood up on first seeing them combined with a lack of clear hoaxing evidence I feel these pictures are the real McCoy and possibly of the Myakka!

    Peace
    P.S. An interesting fact – Orangutans are the only other great ape to have thick dental enamel, just like human teeth!

  36. john5 responds:

    There appear to be many similarities with these pictures of a Myakka and an adult male Orangutan. The big round head and large facial disc, long body hair and a hunched over posture. However there is a key difference found in the canines. Adult male Orangutan canines, in both upper and lower jaws, point outwards.

    Borneo Male Orangutan Skull Cast
    http://www.skullsunlimited.com/graphics/tq-426-lg.jpg
    Sumatran Male Orangutan Skull Cast
    http://www.skullsunlimited.com/graphics/tq-421-lg.jpg
    Upset Male Orangutan
    http://www.fotosearch.com/BDX236/bxp40921/
    Male Orangutan Yawning
    http://www.fotosearch.com/DGT084/42-16422949/

    The lower canines in these pictures clearly point inwards and appear to be more slender and possibly longer than an orangutan’s. Could this be evidence of an unknown species or error on the part of hoaxers? These canines also appear more carnivorous in their appearance, almost catlike, compared to other great apes. Given that Skunk Apes are found in the Everglades it would not be surprising to learn they eat fish!

    The change of eye-shine is also interesting as it rising up in the second picture (at least according to the foreground palms!). I think it would be a difficult feat for eyes in a costume to be this reflective and in a way that is different from human eye shine.

    Lack of palm leaf shadows on the fur from the camera flash could be the result of the vehicle headlights (side glare) diminishing the flash effect. The hair as well could be more light absorbent than light reflective hence diminishing the presence of shadows.

    The lighter coloured beard hair appears to continue down the front in the chest hair in the second picture as a kind of blaze(unless it is the hair revealing a reflective quality!). If this is actual hair colouration this feature could indicate either the maturity and/or gender of the species.

    The way my arm hair stood up when I first saw these pictures, combined with a lack of strong evidence supporting a hoax, I really cannot help feeling these pictures are the real McCoy and possibly of a Myakka!

    Peace

    P.S. An interesting fact – Orangutans are the only other Great Ape to have thick dental enamel, just like human teeth!

  37. Squatch hunter responds:

    I am pretty new to the serious sasquatch hunting but have always been interested in cryptids. I would just like everybody to note the eyeshine in the pictures humans eyes don’t do that in photographs, just an observation.

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