Yeti News
Posted by: Loren Coleman on August 9th, 2008
The Associated Press carries an article today, in essence, saying the belief in the Yeti is on a decline in Bhutan as it becomes modernized.
Here are some snippets from “Losing the Yeti in Forgotten Nation of Bhutan,” by Tim Sullivan:
In the West, yeti-like creatures long ago were reduced to myth. The Abominable Snowman is something from a “Scooby Doo” episode, or part of the latest installment in Hollywood’s “Mummy” franchise. To mainstream science, the notion of Bigfoot is little more than a joke.
But across the Himalayas the beast was seen as real, known for generations in a half-dozen countries from Tibet to Pakistan. It was a region flush with wildlife, where tigers, bears and wild dogs roamed thick mountain forests and remote river valleys. Here, if nowhere else, the yeti was simply one more creature.
For Bhutan, a country barely noticed by much of the world, it became something even more.
In a nation stumbling nervously into modernity, the hulking mountain beast was publicly celebrated, becoming a 20th-century talisman against unbridled change and a link to ancient traditions. Stories of its travels were told by the king and top government officials. The Sakteng Wildlife Sanctuary, a large national park, was created in part as a place to protect it. Once Bhutan bothered to set up a postal system, in the early 1960s, it issued stamps honoring an animal that science insists does not exist.
“Everyone knew it was there,” Dorji says. “It was like the bears or the leopards. Why would we question it?”
No one is sure how far back the stories go.
In A.D. 79, the Roman scholar Pliny the Elder described immensely strong Himalayan animals with “human-like bodies.” Chinese manuscripts from the 7th century mention hairy creatures similar to the yeti.The tales change from region to region across Asia — yetis were man-eaters in some places, grass-eaters in others. In many places, the beast was seen as a harbinger of death, a combination of man, animal and demon.
Some things, though, were certain. It was tall, hairy and very strong. It lived mostly in the high mountains and avoided people. Only a handful of yak herders might report sightings with any regularity, but everyone knew it was out there, and feared it.
In Bhutan, most people call it the “migoi” — strong man — but it goes by any number of names across the Himalayas: glacier man, snow goblin, wild man.
Of course, read the article with a bit of skepticism, because it is written by a Westerner trying to understand Bhutan. For example, he says, “To Westerners, though, it is known as the Yeti — a name believed to come from a Tibetan word for bear,” which is not factually correct.
Ask politely, and Sangay Wangchuck will take you into a meeting room at the headquarters of Bhutan’s conservation department and show you half a dozen framed plaster casts mounted on the wall. The frames show the outline of irregular grayish footprints around 12 inches long. All, according to small signs, come from yetis.
Wangchuck, the national director of conservation, knows what it is to wrestle with belief and science.
He has a master’s degree from Yale and a doctorate from the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology. He’s a scientist who oversees legions of rangers and researchers. His training tells him not to believe in something unless he has proof.
But the yeti stories run deep here, and denial means more than casting off an old belief.
“My parents, my village, they still believe,” says Wangchuck, a genial, erudite man.
When he talks about the yeti, words stumble out in sentence fragments, trying to straddle the line between science and heritage.
“As a biological entity, it’s very difficult” to believe, says Wangchuck, looking down at his desk. But does it exist? “It’s very difficult to say no.”
So this man of science has found a very unscientific middle ground. “I tell people: ‘Let’s not dig too much into it. Let’s talk about it, but leave it at that, and not conclude ‘Yes, it’s there,’ or ‘No, it’s not there.'”
If you go to the AP site of the article, click on photograph number 3. There you will see Sangay Wangchuk, national director of conservation, standing a nice display of plaster casts that he claims are of footmarks from a Yeti, at Thimpu, Bhutan, Wednesday, March 5, 2008. It seems to be a worthy collection that needs to be more closely photographed.
Meanwhile, ever wonder what happened to that Yeti cast collected by Josh Gates? Here’s the answer:
Josh Gates (right), host of the Sci-Fi Channel series “Destination Truth,” presents a cast of what is believed to be a yeti footprint to Joe Rohde, vice president/executive designer of Walt Disney Imagineering. Gates and his expedition team found the footprint while filming an episode of “Destination Truth” in Nepal in November 2007. The cast will soon be placed on display at Expedition Everest, a Himalayan-themed, high-speed, coaster-like attraction at Disney’s Animal Kingdom, where guests come face-to-face with a Yeti.
Miles Gunter has a forthcoming comic book that may be of some interest. It is entitled Yeti vs Vampire, and you can read more about it here.
Also, there’s a four page preview here.
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Also, yes, the new Mummy movie opened. Please refer to the following past postings here on Cryptomundo on our coverage of the inclusion of Yeti in this film:
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this is a very informative about yeti news. thanks bill green 🙂
It is hard to judge by folklore and tales since many people in Bhutan and Tibet are superstitious (according to what I have heard). It is not long ago that trolls were real to people here in Sweden. Now, I don’t think any sane Swede believes in Trolls. At least, I have never seen a Troll, he he.
It is often ignorant to look at other people and cultures with a typicall “western eye”. Even without evidence all people know that the sun sets and rises. To the people in Tibet and Bhutan the Yeti might be as real as the sun.
I had the luck to befriend a guy from Nepal when I lived in Tokyo and I once asked him about the Yeti. No matter that he has spent the last 8 years of his life in the modern society he was sure that the Yeti is a real creature. He had never seen one back home in Nepal but he has relatives who has seen one or more at different occasions.
it would make me feel stupid and rude to tell him that his relatives must be on drugs or something and that he believes in children’s stories.
As we know, many animals were well known by the local people but not accepted untill the western scientists had a body. Of course, we must ask ourselves what is a valid and trustable evidence? A body is 100% evidence but to say that the Yeti is nothing but a fairytail is in a way an insult to the people who live in the areas were it is considered a part of the fauna, no matter what we think. Is there a “twillight zone” were western science can meet with the local people?
Wangchuck says; “Let’s talk about it, but leave it at that, and not conclude ‘Yes, it’s there,’ or ‘No, it’s not there.’” This is a very good approach until hard evidence excists. It is important to remember that we are not only discussing the excistance of the Yeti but we are also direct or indirectly dealing with the various cultures which believes in it. We have no reason or excuse to insult their cultures just because we don’t believe in the same way as they do.
Perhaps the confusion in the article was based on a bear being shown to scientists as a specimen of one type of Yeti? Cool article, BTW
Thanks for posting the link to Miles Gunter’s book, Yeti vs. Vampire, Loren. Gunter’s a fantastic writer with a really unique world-view, and I’m curious to see what he does with a story about Yetis. I’d encourage everyone to check out his comic when it’s released.
On a side note, but still with yeti in mind, I saw the newest mummy film, and it includes yeti, which are shown white furred/haired, as is the recent custom in American media depictions.
I’d give it a 6 or 7. Great special effects, amusing dialog, good sets and costumes, decent action choreography, but not much in the way of character development. I’ll admit to a small foible- I have a tendency to imagine ‘crossover’ cameos of characters from other movies. There’s a scene near the end of this film where I thought it would have been fun to have a brief cameo of Indy Jones. Just a quick look as the camera pans around a club would have been cool. But then I have similar thoughts in other movies too. Or tv shows. For instance, in the 80’s I alway wanted to see a Night Court/Barney Miller crossover. Ok, I’ll stop rambling now.
I uploaded to the posting above the links to the four postings where the new Mummy movie with the Yeti army have been discussed on Cryptomundo previously.