Johor Hominid Hand?

Posted by: Loren Coleman on July 10th, 2006

Sean Ang has published his “hand-traced” sketch of the Johor Hominid (see below):

Johor Hominid Sketch

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James Pritchett, a critic of the ongoing situation with the Chow-noted photographs, comments:

….Sean Ang has now provided us with his long promised sketch of one of the photos. Actually, I should amend that: he’s given us a sketch of one small portion of one of the alleged photos….but prepare to be disappointed–unless you consider a sketch of a hand to be significant…

What have we learned from this image? Are we merely left to ponder more questions?

Johor Hominid Man or Beast

Does Peter Loh’s broader, new images of the Johor Hominid match the photographs? How can we tell without seeing the photos or by only comparing to a new sketch of the hand?

Johor Hominid

Additionally, if there is a Cambodian guerilla source for these photographs, as Dmitri Bayonov has pointed out in private correspondence, maybe the photos were taken 30 or 40 years ago and not in Malaysia, at all, but in Cambodia?

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18 Responses to “Johor Hominid Hand?”

  1. jjames2 responds:

    Thanks for posting this, Loren. I did recently get Sean Ang to confirm that the photos are in color, which, I suppose, might increase the likelihood that the photos (if they actually exist) are from a somewhat more recent time.

    Vincent Chow is supposed to have an online chat at the Johor Hominid site sometime soon, although the exact date has not been announced. At that time, Ang has said Chow will “describe” the photos in detail. Exactly what that will accomplish, I’m not sure.

    I could “describe” the pictures right now, too. Wouldn’t my description be just as scientifically “valid” as Chow’s, though, since none of the photos have actually been displayed to the public? As long as Chow and Ang continue to keep the images hidden, their comments, sketches, etc. will be virtually meaningless.

  2. jjames2 responds:

    Also, please note that the date on the sketch is June 10, 2006. I’m assuming that Ang meant July 10, but this is yet another careless mistake that makes me wonder how much care and attention these guys are putting into this effort.

  3. SaruOtoko responds:

    I am really getting fed up with the whole thing. I also see it as slightly cruel to even bring up the fact that they possess actual pictures of an unknown hominid and keep them away from public view…. just a wee bit ticked off.

  4. greywolf responds:

    Well Loren art (ie) drawings of these creatures are cool but any good high school art student could draw this stuff but a REAL photograph says a thousand words. When they get done with the Biscardi type of hype and get down to the real thing then there is something to talk about.

  5. bill green responds:

    hey loren your very welcome for posting the latest new update about johor hominids in cryptomundo today. im looking forward seeing those new photos of johor hominids, & those new books comeing out in near future. please keep me updated ok. 🙂 thanks bill

  6. Jeremy_Wells responds:

    A sketch of a hand? The hand?

    The cynic in me is ready to call this a slowly deflating bag of hot air.

    But the hopeful part of me was impressed with Ang’s honesty when he acknowledged that others had laughed at the photos before Chow took an interest… for some reason that honesty was refreshing…

    But a sketch of a photo of a hand?

  7. Ole Bub responds:

    Patience folks….the story will unfold…I’ll reserve judgement til all the facts are known….

    I don’t need a photo to know sasquatch and his cousins are real…”I told ya so”…

    seeing is believing…

    ole bub and the dawgs

  8. jjames2 responds:

    Ole Bub:

    You may not need a photo to know that these creatures are “real,” but a vast majority of us do need at least a photo, if not more.

    I’ll be a broken record again here: why, Ole Bub, should we be patient? These people released the story about the photos (whether intentionally or not), gave multiple press interviews about it, started a website about it, etc., etc. THEY are the ones driving the hype.

  9. Ole Bub responds:

    Jason…

    You are absolutely correct…I’ll stay out of the debate…the folks on the ground over there seem earnest and forthright to date…just because I’m willing to give them the benefit of the doubt for now…doesn’t mean you should.

    Thirty years of drilling wells and investing in capital markets has taught me patience….it’s easy to learn and hard to practice….take a child or a city girl fishing…JMHO

    all the best…

    Ole bub and the dawgs

  10. jjames2 responds:

    It’s not that I don’t think Vincent and Sean aren’t forthright. I’m just now starting to suspect that they’re being duped by whoever gave them these alleged photos.

  11. Jeremy_Wells responds:

    Bub,
    I’ve never seen a mink in the woods. I know they exist, because I’ve seen photos other people have taken of them, and so I believe people when they say they have seen them in the neck of the woods where I grew up.
    But I’ve never seen one, so for me seeing was only believing in that “seeing” a photo of this known animal was believing.
    There are, of course, a lot of animals like this, despite the fact that I grew up playing in the woods and have been a hunter since I was big enough to (safely) carry a gun. You know, in my first several years of turkey hunting I considered myself lucky to even HEAR one of the birds, and it took me quite a while to actually see one when I was looking for it. (Not counting the fleeting glimpse of one flying across the road in front of me that I almost hit with my car.)
    You’re a smart man, you see the parallels I’m drawing, I’m sure.
    For those of us who haven’t been lucky enough to see one (as I assume you have seen something, from various comments you’ve made in several posts) these photos are all the proof we have.
    And, in fact, once these photos are released, if they are released, you are liable to realize it is something entirely different from what you have witnessed here in the states (in fact, I’d be surprised if it wasn’t).
    I’ve preached patience from the beginning, and I can stay patient. But this slow leaking of info, and releasing a drawing of a hand, well, I don’t know anything about investing or drilling wells, but I know about newspapers and publicity, and this is how you drag out a non-story, or lose serious interest in a serious story.
    And on a side note, I found it real funny, that about taking a city girl fishing… My girlfriend is Denver born and raised, and to her she is “out in nature” because her apartment here in Austin is near a park.

  12. planettom responds:

    The facial sketch on JohorHominid.org looks nothing like the above sketches. At least in my opinion. The position of the eye, ears, facial structure and the hair are all very different. Anyone else? Where’s the consistency? Also, to me the name “VINCENT CHOW” on the JH.org sketch looks a lot like “PETER LOH” on the above sketches, just a random observation. I’m no handwriting expert, and these aren’t signatures, but were these drawn by the same person?

  13. jjames2 responds:

    For anyone who’s on here, go to the Johor Hominid site now, and read the chat. I pointed out the similarity between the face sketch and the ape-creatures from the “Dawn of Man” sequence in Kubrick’s “2001.” I posted a link, as did another person in the chat room. Sean is now saying they look very similar, and appears to think that the pictures might possibly be from the movie…More to come…

  14. LeCope responds:

    Hopefully the Johor Hominid will not be attributed to Stuart Freeborn, although it would make all the nonsense with these mysterious photos make a lot more sense. Here is a tribute to Mr Freeborn.

  15. shadowparks responds:

    Only time will tell on the authenticity of the supposed pictures. Makes you wonder why they are waiting so long to expose them. I smell hoax.

  16. twblack responds:

    I just do not know it is starting to feel like the whole thing is not up to par so to speak. I hope not!!

  17. youcantryreachingme responds:

    The Johor Hominid website now has a new image in its header.

    What have we here?

    The first photo in greyscale? yay! 😀

    Chris.

  18. jjames2 responds:

    Chris:

    I believe that’s just a negative image of the sketch done by Vincent Chow.

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