Bigfoot Body “Accidentally Found”
Posted by: Loren Coleman on July 29th, 2008
The story of how the claimed Bigfoot body in Georgia was found is slowly being revealed. But first a moment to take a deep breath.
The Bigfoot Trackers of Georgia have gained a lot of self-congratulatory mileage from going after Cryptomundo and others as their “enemies.” Of course, this is silly, and yet does make for emotional YouTube videos that do not present their cause too well in the public’s eye. Cryptomundo doesn’t feel anything in relationship to this entire melodrama other than interest. Yes, Cryptomundo’s hopes are presented as realistic, balanced with a skeptical intrigue in seeing the body to know if there is any factual basis to the claims, of course. Any grounded individual would ask for as much. Any thinking “Joe Friday” cop would too.
If the gentlemen read clearly, without bias, they will have noted that from the first Cryptomundo posting on July 11th, this site (as opposed to a few comment makers) has never said this event was a hoax or even anything close to that. Let’s take a quick review.
From July 11th, here’s what I wrote under “History In The Making: Bigfoot Body Taken?”:
“Has the first Bigfoot body been taken? Ask yourself, how will the first Bigfoot be found, discovered, and displayed?
Will it be through a highly publicized effort from a museum or zoological park, as during the 19th and early 20th century, or will it be due to some folks with military and law enforcement backgrounds from north Georgia?
Does someone have a body already? What are we to make of this breaking news, tied to getting expedition subscribers?
But maybe in this brave new world, will this be how such a discovery unfolds?
The ‘Bigfoot Trackers’ claim they have a Bigfoot corpse, frozen in a freezer, killed by a .30-06.
In the middle of their ads for tee-shirts, expeditions, chest-beating male tracker dominance, and more, is there any possibility of truth to what they are saying? Could this be history in the making?”
The only “admitted hoax” that I have ever talked about is the one they acknowledged dealing with “Dr. Paul Van Buren.”
Now, here’s the latest on the alleged details behind the discovery of the body:
Georgia Bigfoot Claim: ‘Body Was Accidentally Found’
Rick Dyer of Forest Park, Georgia from Bigfoottracker.com claims that the Bigfoot body in his possession was accidentally found in the deep woods approximately 7 miles from a road.
On the Squatchdetective.com radio show on July 28th, Dyer explained that it took 6 people 1 1/2 days to drag the 8’8″, 600lbs. corpse to a vehicle. He refused to disclose the gender of the creature. Dyer also stated it was found in early June and assumes it had been dead a few days. As well, he mentioned that the Bigfoot is being stored in a 10 ft. freezer.
Dyer also claimed that other ‘live’ Bigfoot creatures were observed in the same area where the body was found and that he has photographs.
Listeners were allowed to field questions.
Dyer said that at least one researcher had refused to believe his find and that the YouTube campaign was started in order to belittle other well known cryptozoologists.
Ask what the creature looks like, Dyer answered that it looks ‘more human than ape’ and that he seeked legal counsel in order to copyright photographs. He states he already has a buyer who has offered $10 million.
Dyer did say that he never believed in Bigfoot and didn’t research the creature before he stumbled across the body.
Dyer claims that the proof and evidence of their find will start being released to the public on September 1st, 2008. The attorney handling Dyer’s affairs in this case is Monroe Ferguson of Ferguson, Ferguson & Morris, P.C. of Jonesboro, Georgia.
That’s what I like. Just the facts.
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About Loren Coleman
Loren Coleman is one of the world’s leading cryptozoologists, some say “the” leading living cryptozoologist. Certainly, he is acknowledged as the current living American researcher and writer who has most popularized cryptozoology in the late 20th and early 21st centuries.
Starting his fieldwork and investigations in 1960, after traveling and trekking extensively in pursuit of cryptozoological mysteries, Coleman began writing to share his experiences in 1969. An honorary member of Ivan T. Sanderson’s Society for the Investigation of the Unexplained in the 1970s, Coleman has been bestowed with similar honorary memberships of the North Idaho College Cryptozoology Club in 1983, and in subsequent years, that of the British Columbia Scientific Cryptozoology Club, CryptoSafari International, and other international organizations. He was also a Life Member and Benefactor of the International Society of Cryptozoology (now-defunct).
Loren Coleman’s daily blog, as a member of the Cryptomundo Team, served as an ongoing avenue of communication for the ever-growing body of cryptozoo news from 2005 through 2013. He returned as an infrequent contributor beginning Halloween week of 2015.
Coleman is the founder in 2003, and current director of the International Cryptozoology Museum in Portland, Maine.
Everyone is trying to look at this through their own, individual perspective. If you ask me (which you haven’t) what has transpired is pretty much commensurate with what I would expect from two blue-collar guys who were not already buffs; guys who are busting their fannies and being shot on the job, guys who are looking to make money.
I imagine many of you who have researched Bigfoot have imagined what it would be like getting a glimpse, photo, or perhaps the “Holy Grail”, a body. You are all, if you ask me, framing this as if it were you, or folks like you, who had found it…..”what I would have done is….”
This is specifically why I think they might actually have something…….and THE ONLY reason.
I have spent a lifetime in North Georgia and am confident that, as rural and untouched as it may seem to others, it is routinely visited and well explored. Hell, white-tailed deer hunters have so over-hunted the state that deer walk around looking up in the trees….and that is NO JOKE. I imagine that any 8’8″, 600 lb animal, especially one of lore and legend, would have been blasted into extinction long, long ago. Not to mention being routinely photographed……..and I do mean ROUTINELY…….I have a hard time believing we can get a photo of Jackie O’nnasis-Kennedy, Brittany Spears’ panties and a man on the moon……but no Yeti?!?
I say, just for the sake of being optimists, we give them until September 1…….assuming they’re what I think they are…..opportunists looking to make money and not hard-line researchers…….and if they don’t produce the evidence……ignore the hell out of them.
I’ve already said most of what I need to say about this in previous threads, so I’ll keep this comment short and just say to those who claim to have a body- SHOW US ANYTHING AT ALL. I have to side with Matt Bille and Photoexpert on this one. I deal with facts and evidence. I have been given no reason to believe this story any more than I have reason to believe in Santa Clause. There is no evidence, not even circumstantial. The “facts” keep changing. I would freely admit I am wrong if I saw something to challenge this assertion. I’m pretty much done with this whole thing until some kind of evidence is forthcoming, as this is merely fiction at this point.
Just look at how most zoological discoveries are handled and compare with the three ring circus that this whole affair has become. Something is amiss here, and I suspect the other shoe is about to fall.
Lightning Orb–I actually agree with you and your scenario. This could possibly be the other side of the coin. Most definitely a plausible scenario. It all could be as you surmised with your theory. And it would not take much to make a believer out of me given the somewhat questionable character and maturity level of these particular fellows. So you make some great points as to why they may actually have a body of a BF.
However, my explanation of why they do not have a body is just as plausible. Really, we are in agreement as to possible scenarios. But given my experience in the Cryptocommunity with other attempted hoaxes that have taken place, I smell something fishy. And it is not fishy in the positive sense. My experience, my gut, my intuition, their lies, deception, arrogance, stupidity and character, all tell me that I am right about this.
Some people will believe them. Some will be skeptical and give them the benefit of the doubt. Some will believe them and then not believe them and then believe them again with the advent of each new backtrack or lie.
I hate seeing people get fooled. I hate seeing people being made fun of for their passion. I hate seeing people being controlled by bad natured individuals. I hate seeing arrogant people with little intelligence trying to pull a “fast one” over others that are more educated then themselves, out of jealousy or whatever reason. Somebody has to speak out and stand up for those people when they see BS. Some people have degrees such as a BA, BS, or Masters or PHD. Some people do not and are intimidated by that. Since they are incapable of achieving that on their own because they lack the dedication or intelligence, they want to play a joke to bring these people down a peg in their minds. And although I have one of those aforementioned degrees, the cop probably does not. That is apparent. Oh, I think he is deserving of an honorary degree. So let me bestow that degree on him now. I give him a “BS” degree. He seems to have a handle on shoveling that.
So what I have done from the beginning is evaluated what this cop and friends have been doing. I have intelligently gaged their actions and reactions. They are full of it and full of themselves. That is obvious. And at the risk of them actually having a BF body, I went on record from the beginning that it is a HOAX.
Hypothetically, let’s say I am wrong and they have had a BF body all along. I went on record as them not having a body and being a hoax. Big deal, I would have to say I had it wrong. It still does not take away their intended malice and their immature attitudes. They still lose!
Now let’s just say I am correct and they do not have a BF body. I stood up to these morons from day one and helped other people not to be made the brunt of jokes. That is a good thing! I prevented them from making fun of good people and smashing the hopes and dreams of real enthusiasts. I prevented them from “getting even” with their intended target in the field of Cryptozoology. For me, it is a WIN/WIN.
For them, no matter what happens, it is a LOSE/LOSE. And I know a LOSER when I see or smell one.
Believe me, I wish you were right about this one and someone does have a BF body–just not these individuals!
I wish I were wrong in my prediction that they are hoaxers. But if it looks like a BS, and smells like BS, I am sure glad I did not step in it. I did not. I avoided it completely and called it to others’ attention, so they did not step in it as well.
Anyway, great thinking there Lightning Orb. At first, I thought it could be what your theory was saying. I thought out that side of the coin too. But I went the other way on this because of their psychological makeup. They seem to be the arrogant, uneducated, self proclaimed macho-bravado type, who are attention seeking for lack of any success in their lives. I call them as I see them. I am playing their bluff and calling them out on it. If they had even a speck of intelligence, they would fold. But these types never do, they would just rather lose and continue bluffing. So be it!
I am still laughing! Their joke was great! Too bad it was on them and not their intended targets. LOL
CHEESE AND RICE…these fellas are obviously hoaxers it seems like they hav a beef with the bigfoot community which is fine but still they shouldnt be degrading it the way they are….sad
I am in Georgia and feel its possible for a sighting but these guys just make me wanna stick it to them instead of look for evidence……again sad
was there a digging stick?
In 1981, I had a well documented encounter with a Bigfoot-like creature here in Maryland. Since then, I have privately investigated sightings on the east coast of the United States from Maine to Florida, including northern Georgia. Though I feel that there is a possibility that a Bigfoot corpse may have been found by the BFT’s, I doubt it for a few reasons.
IMO, there are 2 good reasons why deceased Bigfoot are not found. The woods, in particular the eastern woodlands, remarkably clean themselves within days. Scavenger activity, let alone insects and predators, will disperse a large mammal quickly. Also, I suspect that there are Bigfoot family units as well as communities. I have seen some of evidence of this. I also feel that these units dispose of their dead in order to avoid discovery.
If the BFT’s claim stands that they trekked 7 miles into the Georgia woodlands and happened upon a Bigfoot corpse, then I must say that their account is hogwash. A few days old corpse would have been removed and hidden by other Bigfoot. The BFT’s already stated that there were ‘others’ in the vacinity. We are to assume that these ‘others’ would have left a dead Bigfoot out in the open so a group of loud and stinking humans could find it? As soon as these BFT’s stepped into the woods, they made their presence known.
Alright, why is everyone so skeptical and acting like we think they are full of hot air?
Let’s look it over…first, they make a claim and immediately start trying to make a profit off of it…that is red danger flag number one…that’s asking for scoffing and eye rolling right from the get go…why, because a “scam” is someone trying to con another into buying or believing something without producing something up front…you do not go to the store and wait for a clerk to come up and offer to sell you a box of rice, but you have to pay first and then you will still only get your box of rice on September 1st. Nuff Said.
Being skeptical on this one is hardly something to blame anyone for…even if these jokers have an actual body (and at this point I wouldn’t put ten cents on that outcome…yeah, complain, but go ahead and prove me wrong…uh-huh, that’s what I thought), they have caused so much skepticism between their initial tactics, the YouTube crap, and everything else in between.
I am all for giving someone a fair shake, but when you come out of the gate acting suspicious and definitely acting to make a dollar before you ever give out any proof…well as they say, you get what you give.
You want to make us all look foolish, sure, show us a body, but when September 1st rolls around and the pictures are shoddy, out of focus, at a distance, and you have no physical proof to offer (because of a fire, a thief or some other natural calamity), you just remember who called it back in July.
SHJ
If these two had a “falling out” of sorts with one of the Bigfoot groups or persons, and this is the reason for this declaration that they have a body and made all of the insulting videos to boot, why hasn’t that person or group brought out the details of this rift? They would certainly have an audience.
On whose land was “it” supposedly found?..state or private?I’m sure there are “issues” with both. this story reeks…a freind at work told me about it,so I had to come find out about it.their website absolutely sucks,I never saw any t-shirts or whatever either,just a link to the tracker thing.I’m sure some law enforcement agency somewhere has a problem with a bunch of guys going out into the woods with guns to hunt down anything?..especially if it were state land?how do you get a permit for that?…um hey,i need a permit to hunt down a bigfoot,and i’m taking nine other guys with me…LOL!!!!!!!