Unknown Primate Arm Found in Florida?
Posted by: John Kirk on September 2nd, 2014
Stacy Brown from 10 Million Dollar Bigfoot Bounty claims this may be the arm of an unknown primate.
It looks rather human to me except for the crescent shaped bone at the conjunction of radius, ulna and humerus. Could just be puece of bone was broken off.
Can’t see properly if the thumb is opposed. Brown says he has notified the police of this find and they let him keep it.
I am starting to see the possibility of ursus, but there is still something odd about this that I can’t put my finger on. Deformed or midget bear, perhaps?
Update
Having discussed this with two colleagues, it is more apparent that this is a bear. The olecranon process between the radius and ulna and the humerus is that of a bear. The angle of the photo makes it seems shorter than it is, but it’s bear alright.
We recieved a non-human primate arm this morning. FWC officials ruled out bear and human by the makeup of the bones. What kind of primate arm this is we dont know as of yet. Here is a photograph of the arm. We are in talks now with people to test the samples we send. We are hopeful this may be a skunk ape’s arm. We will find out for sure one way or another. This was found in an area with alot of bigfoot activity. We even found a trackway in the sand in april with 100+ tracks.
~ Stacy Brown
The Sasquatch Hunters
About John Kirk
One of the founders of the BCSCC, John Kirk has enjoyed a varied and exciting career path. Both a print and broadcast journalist, John Kirk has in recent years been at the forefront of much of the BCSCC’s expeditions, investigations and publishing. John has been particularly interested in the phenomenon of unknown aquatic cryptids around the world and is the author of In the Domain of the Lake Monsters (Key Porter Books, 1998).
In addition to his interest in freshwater cryptids, John has been keenly interested in investigating the possible existence of sasquatch and other bipedal hominids of the world, and in particular, the Yeren of China. John is also chairman of the Crypto Safari organization, which specializes in sending teams of investigators to remote parts of the world to search for animals as yet unidentified by science. John travelled with a Crypto Safari team to Cameroon and northern Republic of Congo to interview witnesses among the Baka pygmies and Bantu bushmen who have sighted a large unknown animal that bears more than a superficial resemblance to a dinosaur.
Since 1996, John Kirk has been editor and publisher of the BCSCC Quarterly which is the flagship publication of the BCSCC. In demand at conferences, seminars, lectures and on television and radio programs, John has spoken all over North America and has appeared in programs on NBC, ABC, CBS, PBS, TLC, Discovery, CBC, CTV and the BBC.
In his personal life John spends much time studying the histories of Scottish Clans and is himself the president of the Clan Kirk Society. John is also an avid soccer enthusiast and player.
Does anybody know what the unit of measurement shown is?
Without knowing the unit of measurement I can’t be sure. Because that could make a big difference in my theory. But if it is inches or centimeters, then I think it is most likely the leg and foot of a rhesus monkey. The digits are as long as the ulna, which is found in monkeys. Something with digits that long in proportion to the limb is almost certainly arboreal. I did a quick search and found this example that I think looks enough like the above picture to make an educated guess that this a monkey’s leg and foot. Rhesus monkeys are known to have breeding populations in Florida.
The company Gator Grip makes their Bluwater measuring boards in two sizes, 38″ & 48″.
18″ is way too big to be the arm of a Rhesus.
“Adult males measure approximately 53 cm (21 in) on average and weigh about 7.7 kg (17 lb). Females are smaller, averaging 47 cm (19 in) in length and 5.3 kg (12 lb) in weight.”
This is a limb from a bear. Not from a primate at all. I’ve sculpted many bears and studied their anatomy and skeletal structure over the years and I would say this is from a bear. Given that it was found in Florida, it was from a black bear – possibly a cub.
If it’s a bear, then it’s “fingers” will end in rather distinct claws. If not, then it’s something else.
I yield to the experts. If cryptokellie with his sculpting experience says it is most likely a bear, then it is most likely a bear. My theory was flawed from the beginning anyway, because I was taking the entire length of the “hand” bones as the length of the digits. After perusing more skeletal pictures of bear and other species, I see that when the bone is exposed most digits seem abnormally long, because part of that is the palm or paw or whatever it may be. What’s so funny is, now when I look at it, it is so obviously a bear! Oh well, I’ll wear the dunce hat today.
Manders;
Google: Bear Paw Skeleton and you’ll see all you need to see. Black bears have smaller claws than Brown/Grizzly Bears by which they can climb easier. The claws are non-retractable and grow out the end of the digit pad. They are not made of bone but of keratin like hair and fingernails and they may drop off during decomposition. Bears also possess a plantigrade foot and ankle set-up much like humans so the primate resemblance is misleading.
The board is a Gator Grip measuring board, used by sport fishers. It is likely the Bluewater 38″ board. Link to one. I assume the measurements are in inches.
The arrangement of bones that connect to the radius and ulna is the carpus and then the metacarpal bones. There should be three joints after the metacarpals, and it looks like there are only two here. It suggests the distal phalanges was removed, which is typical of killed bears, the claws are removed.
I agree that it is most likely a bear limb.
That’s just what the bears want you to think! The truth is out there, people, and it’s not bears.