Ketchum Paper Was Submitted to and Rejected by Nature
Posted by: Craig Woolheater on September 17th, 2013
Robert Lindsay posted links to the following documents online:
Peer review documents between Ketchum and Nature Magazine are now available for download! I have now obtained two peer review documents between Ketchum and Nature. The first is a response to peer review criticisms from Melba listing the criticisms and the changes that were made to deal with them. The second is a threatening letter from Melba accusing Nature of leaking secret peer review documents about her study and therefore harming her reputation. It’s pretty interesting and at times explosive stuff!Robert Lindsay
Ketchum’s Responses to Peer Referees Criticisms
Ketchum Cover Letter to Board of Nature Magazine
Some interesting excerpts from the second document:
Re: Novel North American Hominins, Next Generation Sequencing of Three Whole Genomes and Associated Studies
Dear Executive Board,
I am the corresponding author for the above mentioned manuscript. We (the authors of this manuscript) are extremely unhappy with the ethics of the reviewers chosen by Nature. Please consider this letter as a formal appeal of your process on the previous manuscript, 2011-09-11671 and 2011-09-11671A-Z. We are resubmitting a revised manuscript in an effort to vindicate our reputations and also to give Nature a chance to rectify the scientific bias and the unethical behavior exhibited by the previous reviewers by giving our manuscript a fair chance at publication. Our manuscript and our reputations were tarnished by the reviewers as follows:
1. Release to the public of the first peer review as well as the fact that our manuscript was at Nature. One of the reviewers leaked the original peer review to a “celebrity” that is involved with our subject and it was put on the internet. Since it has not been published in Nature, this “celebrity” is now calling our study a “fake” on Twitter and elsewhere. This is highly damaging to our careers and never should have happened. The link states the source of the information as being one of the reviewers.
It has been stated that extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. We have provided more than enough extraordinary proof. We even have high definition video of the donor of sample 37 sleeping in the forest and breathing at 6 breaths per minute (Supplementary Video 1). This sample was part of a field research study overseen by a PhD in wildlife biology so we are certain of the source of this sample and the video attached to it. We have a full facial video of her also that will be released after the paper publishes. I could arrange for the Editorial board to view it if they so desire and perhaps a copyright arrangement could be reached so that one frame could be used for the cover of the journal. The face is stunning.
If there is still any doubt concerning the existence of these hominins, we are also willing to allow a representative from Nature to travel here and see these individuals personally, preferably during a full moon to increase lighting since they are primarily nocturnal. Though there is never 100% guarantee that a sighting will occur, if a few (about 3) days are allowed, we predict that the chances of seeing one of these hominins approach 99%. So far, everyone that we have invited has had an experience, including myself and some of the co-authors. Seeing is believing and that is why we offer this opportunity. We will do whatever is necessary to support our manuscript.Dr. Melba S. Ketchum
Note that the link referenced above was to a post here on Cryptomundo where Matt Moneymaker claimed that the DNA study and been submitted and rejected by Nature.
Co-founder of Cryptomundo in 2005.
I have appeared in or contributed to the following TV programs, documentaries and films:
OLN's Mysterious Encounters: "Caddo Critter", Southern Fried Bigfoot, Travel Channel's Weird Travels: "Bigfoot", History Channel's MonsterQuest: "Swamp Stalker", The Wild Man of the Navidad, Destination America's Monsters and Mysteries in America: Texas Terror - Lake Worth Monster, Animal Planet's Finding Bigfoot: Return to Boggy Creek and Beast of the Bayou.
There’s an agenda behind those that attack Dr Ketchum, I believe it is a Christian agenda.
LOL…. just LOL…
now she can take you to where they are… and within 3 days you’ll have a 99% chance of seeing one.
yet all we have is a dude wearing a chewbaka costume
jabronies…
I cannot speak to anything dealing with DNA sequencing, but facts should be facts and once examined, recognized as such by those who can reliably do so and if rejected, well that’s the risk of presenting your material and findings. I also wouldn’t be surprised that some small amount of bias might exist in the hallowed halls of the Nature experts when dealing with outsiders or extraordinary subjects shall we say. I imagine that this debate will last a while and fade into the aether that is the current state of crypto-examination. The real truth of this situation is the matter will never be settled until a real Bigfoot or a large enough piece of one is obtained and presented for classification once and for all. I have omitted films, videos and still photography because with current levels of image manipulation available, I feel that photographic evidence, once a requirement, will now be rejected as invalid. There you have it – in a nutshell.
*sigh* I’m no geneticist, or scientist…I’m just zis guy, ya know?…but it seems as if there’s a whole lotta, “show it to me” and not much recognition of the pathway this endeavor is pointing at. Many of the peer critiques point to the history of the beast, or the credentials of the authors, leaving the facts that can be proven in the propwash. Some do address the way this study was conducted and I applaud that, but some ask more of the paper than it’s possible to do without major funding. The amount of samples they ask to be presented would be a major undertaking, though 3, or a dozen is definitely not “extraordinary evidence”. We all know this was done on a showstring budget, much like every phase of sasquatch research, and it’s purpose is to say that there is an undocumented animal in North America, not, as they want ask for, here is all the facts about an undocumented animal.
I hope the study from England (it’s a little incongruent that a bigfoot study comes from a place of little sasquatchery) takes the focus away from the methods and methodologists and back to, “Is it or ain’t it?” And, though I may be wishing for fishes, I still say Ketchum’s study is a step toward flushing this guy out into the open, as it were. The scientific community needs to have something to grasp and this study, at least, holds unproven facts to their noses.
Someone get in touch with her.
I’ll GLADLY pay my own way and video tape the whole thing for her to take me to see these things…
Well, dconstrukt, I guess I’m with you this time.
All Melba has to do is blow the lid off this thing with what she would HAVE to have, I mean, running all over the place with PROOF OF STEAK! SORRY, SASQUATCH! and all.
Never thought I’d say it. (Not that I haven’t been thinking it.)
Buncha jabronies.
i think im confused. i don’t know much about the science comunity, (I’m still only in highschool) and i understand that some documents got leaked and there upset about that, but since there leaked anyway, where are they?
shouldn’t we be able to see all of this? (mainly the video) again, i may have missed something, can someone please explain? thanks!