Kulls and Dobbs Ditched in LA?

Posted by: Craig Woolheater on August 11th, 2013

From Steve Kulls:

Calling the bluff…

Well for most if you haven’t been under a rock you know that early this week Rick Dyer stated he had a live baby bigfoot in his custody. Did I believe it? Hell no! But then he crossed the line and called me out to see it if I can get to LAX (Los Angeles International Airport).

I was going to ignore the bluff, but by Wednesday hours after the challenge was issued, I received a call from “Jack” and “Jeff.” from Facebook Find Bigfoot. Apparently they had enough faith despite our prior differences to trust me to get to the bottom of things. They cashed in frequent flyer miles and booked me a round trip ticket, and promised whatever support I needed.

We spoke and they stated that Dyer’s claims were pretty incredulous, especially the asexuality of the creature, knowing that no mammal is asexual.

Then came Dyer so frantically trying to call it off. He knew I did not have access to my computer, and he set deadlines. Finally I read off a confirmation number to my flight, and told him when I’d be in, with one great discrepancy, I was arriving 3 hours earlier than I had told him.

Dyer in his arrogance opened it up to anyone else who wanted to come, and two good friends, who were sitting on the fence about Dyer’s claims, who lived in California decided they would go as well.

The previous day many were asking on Facebook if I was going to see the baby, I replied the same to Robert Lindsay in an interview on August 8th, “I’m going there to bust a hoax.”

I arrived at LAX at 10:35 AM PST, and began to rally backup. Suzy Matash and Bugs Mitchell were in. So I waited an hour and called Dyer at 11:36 AM PST.

Dyer stated he was on his way and would be there until 2:30 – 3:00PM. While that was going on via telephone, Bugs, Suzy and I devised a plan that we would not leave their vehicle behind, and we would follow Rick to where ever his “baby” was.

Meanwhile I decided to have a very nice Asian Chicken Wrap with spicy Thai peanut sauce at the Encounters Lounge at LAX.

At 2:36 PM I receive a phone call from Rick that he can’t pick me up, that he believes he will be followed if he goes to LAX and wanted me to take a $10 cab ride to the Hollywood sign where he was waiting to meet now. (In actuality with LA traffic it would have been about a $100 cab ride.)

He desperately wanted me to get a cab and eventually burn me as you can see by these desperate texts from him. Needless to say I had full control of the situation and was waiting for Suzy and Bugs, (Suzy was caught up in traffic). What follows is me stinging along Dyer for almost two hours.

Chat log from 8/9/13 with Dyer, my texts are in green…all times are EST on texts.

I had no intention of playing his game, and once Suzy and Bugs arrived, we took the five minute trip to the Holiday when Dyer had lost his patience, believing I was in a cab and spilled the beans he was a no show.

Dyer never expected anyone to call his bluff. I did. So he devised a plan by saying he would pay for a cab to the Hollywood sign and leave me stranded there. Unfortunately for him I was wise to his game minute one.

When I call “Jack” back, he said, “Now we know, it’s all a hoax.” We had talked previously about Dyer not showing up if this was a hoax. He sounded relieved that it was over.

Jack told me to enjoy the night in L.A. Mission accomplished, and to take a visit to In & Out Burger which we gladly obliged!

We decided to actually celebrate. Dyer had proven himself that he has nothing and many of his believers, or should I say former believers thought he actually had a baby. I never did, but then again I wrote a book on the man.

He started hoax, and called me out, fully expecting me to whelch. Then an ill conceived plan to strand me, which didn’t quite work out.

On another note, many thought FB/FB was involved in the hoax. But as I have stated that Dyer in 2008 was trying to target someone for a fall. In this round he targeted FB/FB, with a man named Allen Issleb who told another skeptic previously, he “wanted to destroy FB/FB.”

Well I believe they have vindicated themselves in this matter. They saw the light, but we all have made misteps along the way, and personally I wouldn’t want to give Dyer the satisfaction of doing anything he set out to do, let alone destroy FB/FB because of his sociopathic tendencies.

Another failure of Dyer is the fact he is a sociopath. In pulling this stunt, he proved to the world that he has nothing, AGAIN, but brought together friends, now good friends, from across the nation, who in turn had a great evening discussing Sasquatch research and making plans to reconnect in the future in research.

Yeah, he really pulled a fast one.

Now is the time to forgive FB/FB, I’m sure they are much the wiser, and trust me when I say they ARE genuinely nice folks, not just because they were the driving factor in getting me out there to call Dyer’s bluff. Remember this is Dyer’s fault more than anyone. More over it is time to forget the name Rick Dyer, Frank Cali, Musky Allen Issleb and his minions, what he has left anyway, and move on to research and more pertinent issues.

About Craig Woolheater
Co-founder of Cryptomundo in 2005. I have appeared in or contributed to the following TV programs, documentaries and films: OLN's Mysterious Encounters: "Caddo Critter", Southern Fried Bigfoot, Travel Channel's Weird Travels: "Bigfoot", History Channel's MonsterQuest: "Swamp Stalker", The Wild Man of the Navidad, Destination America's Monsters and Mysteries in America: Texas Terror - Lake Worth Monster, Animal Planet's Finding Bigfoot: Return to Boggy Creek and Beast of the Bayou.

11 Responses to “Kulls and Dobbs Ditched in LA?”

  1. Cryptidcrazy responds:

    Watch the progression of Dyer’s Youtube videos. It’s like a slow descent into madness and now, he seems to be in critical mass. Someone needs to step in soon or things might get ugly.

  2. edsbigfoot responds:

    Sooo….the last text seems like he’s going to meet the folks at their hotel?…Agreed that he seems crazy, the whole thing appears to be a scam, and I’d be afraid to even make the trip….but….were they waiting at the hotel and he didn’t show after he texts “whatever works for you?”?…Sorry just a bit confusing. Glad those folks are all safe anyway, it seemed like a situation that may have gotten pretty unpleasant face to face.

  3. Goodfoot responds:

    When one doesn’t believe, ONE is “incredulous”, i.e., unbelieving.

    No one’s claims can be “incredulous”, because claims are not human beings. ARE YOU WITH ME SO FAR?

    They found his claims “incredible”. Not “incredulous”. You’re adults. Write like adults.

  4. sasquatch responds:

    I’m incredible about your post Goodfoot.

  5. size 13 responds:

    Who’s the bigger fool? The one who cries wolf or the the one whom falls for it every time? Mark my words,it will happen again.—–“The Squatchman”

  6. cryptokellie responds:

    My friend, the art (and why should this have become an art?) of writing a paragraph of correctly used English with proper parts of speech and punctuation employed is a thing of the past. My children, now in their thirties, cannot do this and my daughter was an English major. No one is taught sentence conjucation anymore as far as I can tell and they have almost no knowledge of the parts of speech and their usage. I very seldom find passible syntax in newspapers, no less blog posts. I blame this on the dumbing down of basic education in favor of outcome based teaching methods and email speak spilling over into common speech. But I digress…
    Dyer is a fool who knows he’s doing foolish things. To think that no one would take him up on his dare was childish. When a childish person draws a line in the sand and then someone actually steps over that line, they are shocked that anyone dared to question them. When you have nothing to back up your dare in terms of both evidence and guts, your only option is to flee.
    Unfortunately, Dyer will lie low for a while, regroup and then concoct another cannard to try and further extend this asinine attempt at fame in the Bigfoot world. In another post on this subject, I mentioned that somewhere PT Barnum was chuckling. Now he rolling in a belly laugh for surely, as attributed to him, one is born every minute.

  7. William responds:

    This just illustrates that Dyer ought to be committed (either voluntarily or involuntarily) to a pyschiatric hospital for treament, as this man has major mental health issues.

  8. NMRNG responds:

    Craig, I suggest you change the title to “Kulls and Dobbs Ditched by Dyer in LA” as not everyone knows who Kulls and Dobbs are or will associate their names with disproving Rick Dyer (rhyme with liar).

  9. Goodfoot responds:


    Don’t you make the schools the fall guy for rank ignorance. Everyone knows they’re horrible, and intentionally so, because a dumbed-down public is a compliant public.

    90%+ of everything I know is self-learned. A high school diploma or a college degree (though I have both) is merely a gateway to further learning. 99.9999% of all knowledge is available at libraries, adult learning centers, and on the internet. Every additional bit of learning is a gateway to further learning, and to the ability to discern truth from falsehood, deceit from lies, fact from belief.

    Don’t blame the schools. If someone wants to learn something, they can learn it. If they don’t want to learn it, blame THEM, not the schools.

    Ignorance is no longer an excuse. We are not living in the Dark Ages. Though we may stand on the threshold of a new one, thanks to folks’ self-satisfaction with their own ignorance.

  10. Goodfoot responds:

    And your medical degree is from…?

  11. cryptokellie responds:

    I agree completely. I don’t blame the schools or the teachers who have to dance as the school boards and their union fiddles. I question the curriculum and objectives of the present administrators in what seems to be a majority of educational systems. When I was in grade school, over fifty years ago, we were taught all the basics of course but, we were taught another skill which I don’t believe is being addressed as much as it should – if at all…we were taught how to think. Not an easy thing to do. Two things people do very little of these days, reading and thinking.
    All the education available does not assure that a person with it can actually think.
    If the medical degree question is meant for me, I don’t understand. I don’t think I ever addressed anyones medical condition.

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